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Old 07-09-2008, 11:36 PM
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Sorry bout tha long writting in advance but this shyt is REALLY FRUSTRATING ......So get this Im kinda in a bitter sweet perdicament here....I've been goin' out a lot tha past two months wit my boy from high school whom I've known now for 10 years...since tha day i met him hes ALWAYS had girls flocking over him...we've been tight for a while but tha past few months we've been tagether a lot, now dont get me wrong, I've been called cute N hot my whole life but this kid just fuckin kills it! I meen EVERY SINGLE GIRL THINKS HE'S JUST DROP DEAD FUCKIN' GORGEOUS!!! and I really cant take anything away from him cause he is a chill kid that doesnt act different around girls or other people, but im talkin I have pics at my house wit us tagether n ill have girls over n they stop dead in their tracks n go "O MY GOD i WANA FUCK HIM RIGHT NOW, CALL HIM GET HIM OVER HERE!!!"..dont get me wrong when we go out i hook up too, but its never tha girl i wanted cause all tha girls do is sit there n drool over him...all he has ta do is fart n they crawl right up his ass...I meen the girls i get r hot too, but they're not my target....N i say "bitter sweet" because I hav my own place n most of the time afta tha bars we have a bunch of girls over but its only because he tells them thas where he is stayin for the night n they invite them selves...which has worked ta my benifit on numerous occassions but I still dont get tha girl i want...when im not with him i get the attention but NEVER like he does....he knows nothin bout tha method N trust me, he doesnt need any help from anyone...his method is "put on a clean shirt n make sure to get to tha bar b4 it closes"...Ive seen this kid straight tell girls that he's fucking 4 girls on the side n that he only like "sluts" AND THEY STILL COME BACK WITH US N HE FUCKS THEIR BRAINS OUT ON MY LIVING ROOM FLOOR, N THEY CALL HIM THA NEXT DAY TA MAKE SURE THEY HANG OUT AGAIN...I always end up being called tha "cute mature one" but what do i do? He's my boy n a lot of tha time we end up back at my place with all these girls is cause of him n I DO get laid so i cant complain but it's really startin ta piss me off but i cant b madd at him cause its not like he's an asshole about it, he's actually 1 of the funniest kids n thas y we get along so well cause we share tha same sense of humor...I know Mystery said bring a pivot who likes attention or an alpha male wit u is like shooting yourself in tha foot but again, HE'S MY BOY N WE GO WAY BACK...I love tha kid but this REALLY HAS TO STOP! I get discouraged bout the method when im with him cause I cant even take the girls eyes away from him long enough ta run anything...n besides, no other kid i know likes to go out n stay out like he does so he's like my ONLY buddy to go out with...ANY kind of comments r welcome here wether it b helpful advice, or sum one thinking I'm just jealous(which is definetly not tha case cause every girl thats ever talked ta me bout him say he has a small cock so....go figure), but ya, anything N everything is welcome...


Thanx guyz,
J.Z.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:08 AM
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A few points:

1. I think you are jealous, but that's okay, it's human nature. I would be too. He's got what you want and every time you see him get what you want it just magnifies the fact that you don't have it. There probably is some state of mind you could achieve where this truly wouldn't bother you but I doubt many people are able to achieve it.

2. David D says hang out with naturals as much as you can and try to understand what it is that they do that makes them so good with women. Observe what he does. Model him. You might even be able to ask your friend how he's so good with women. Trust me, it's not just his looks. Also some other mpua, maybe mystery, said something like "What's the next best thing to being a celebrity? Being a celebrity's friend." Just by being a part of their social circle you get benefits. So, what you now perceive as a disadvantage could actually be an advantage.

3. Find someone else to go out with. Sometimes you go out with your friend and sometimes you go out with other people.

4. Go out by yourself.

5. Learn from the example of Style who comes in under the radar. People don't seem him coming but that's part of why he's so good. So your friend is the "obvious" guy girls go to, if you're not that guy you can approach women and they won't feel they're being preyed on which gives you some advantages such as when you approach mixed sets where the guys might block someone like your friend.
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:18 AM
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I get what you are saying.
Listen, for the rest of your life the situation with you and your friend will remain the same. Just accept it and move on. He is better than you with girls. So what.

Now, you are missing the positive aspect of being good friends with an alpha male. When you are with him you are the beta male. You get hard core lack of attention from girls. BUT you get to see how it is to be an alpha male.

Now, imagine that you meet a new group of people and all the men are beta males. Far more beta than you. How would you behave in that situation? .....Like your Alpha male friend. You have a model of behaviour from your friend. You will see that naturally you are going to copy his attitude.

You dont have to spend 100% of your time with your friend. Make new friends have some new hobbies, meet new women and make your time with your friend like a learning session. And accept that he is years ahead of you. But once you have your own life the girls that you bring home will come for you and focus on you, even if they think that your friend is hot.
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:57 AM
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Hey thanks for the input guys...I dont wana sound like im making excuses but modeling after what he does is NOT the answer....this is that 1 kid that is jus so brutally n devistatingly sexii that he never has to say or do anything! Of course I use it ta my benifit as far as tryin' to see things he says, mind u this is my boy not some wing i jus met, I've know him for 10 years now n he is a nose pickin, fartin at the dinner table, lets take a girl ona date to white castle kinda guy...I remember a few weeks ago he met this HB11 who was 25 (we're 23) n tha 1st night we went back to his parents house of all places n he fell asleep on the bath room floor after jus puking n left her alone with his 16 year old brother n his friends playin xbox....I was with her friend so I didnt care but good lord, she had her own car she could of easily left cuz her friend n i were in the next room over n she actually waited just incase he came to...tha kid actually gets up hours later, doesnt brush his teeth or anything, comes out SHE'S STILL THERE , kisses her(by this time im back in the room) she makes the most disgusted face and she gets up takes his hand n brings him back in the bathroom(which reeks from all the throw up) n then blows n fucks him!!?? I MEEN COMON!! If he actually had some kind of style i would of never posted this...All girls say he's like a cross between brad pitts body n Eminem's face...so anyway ya, I do go out by myself sometimes or with my one other friend but I have the best time wit him....N like i said its not like im left hangin', I jus want my target 4 once, thas all. N of course I've put tha method into play, specially when we come back to my place, I feel like these are my grounds....theres times I'll have tha whole places attention n i do land 1 of tha broads but its never my target cuz shes to busy rubbin up on his cock to care....this kids taken multiple virginitys n counting as well....he toll me his numbers some where in the high 40's if not higher he lost count N let me tell u, I believe it...n this is a guy who knows nothing bout tha method...kid didnt even graduate from high school n lives in his parents basement, smokes tons of cigaretts, takes pills, pain killers, Oxycotins, valuim, smokes buds(not that theres anything wrong wit buds) n drinks on a daily basis....has no job, no drivers license, has been wearin tha same Tims for ever now n the only reason he gets into places is cuz he fucked 1 of tha girls that worked there at 1 point n they all know him.....he tha only one i kno thats actually had a FourSome.... So ya I kinda get tha feelin I eaither cut him all tagether or jus keep tryin, I dunno...

Again any kind of comment is welcome, I just wana hear your thoughts on this thas all.

J.Z.
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:03 AM
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JonZchary,

dude please, use paragraphs. Reading posts like these gives me head ache. I will gladly give you my $.02 and many people would too, if your post wasn't bunched up in ONE LONG poorly punctuated paragraph.


BTW, 2069 got a good point.
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Old 07-10-2008, 08:18 AM
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LoL... "Poorly Punctuated", not tryin ta win any awards here guy, jus wana make sure yall have all tha facts ta truly feel where I'm comin' from. Good detail makes for good feed back. I think all tha points that have been made are goodI'd b jelous if I never got ANY girl, but girls tell me im like a 9 or an 8, but when Im wit him its like i instantly drop to a 7 n I KNOW sum1's gona say "Well thas tha case cuz thas how YOUR percieving it", but I promise you all, its not just me...K guess Ill end it here cuz some people dont like to read when they sign on to a forum, thanx

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Old 07-10-2008, 08:57 AM
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its not that people dont want to read on the forum, its that they want to read something thats spaced out so that you can concentrate on what your reading and not have the whole paragraph blur together. writing long posts is fine (look at how insanely long some of the field reports are!), but you have to make it easy to read if you want people to read it.

please dont feel like True or I are flaming or attacking you, we're just trying to help you get your point across clearly next time so that people will read your posts and be able to help. as it is, your posting style is a little tough to follow just because it hurts the eyes.

notice the way Con and 2069 responded with 4 or 5 separated paragraphs. didnt it make it easy to follow what they were saying? use the "enter" button when you're changing from one idea or topic to another. it makes the post much easier to read and easier to understand too.
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:14 AM
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Tru Tru aite i get it, I never feel like im bein attacked wether i blaintly am or not...regaurdless this has been my main issue in the feild as of late n thas y I even bothered postin' in tha 1st place

...I actually jus talked ta him n we're possed ta go to seaside(nj) tamarro to this girls house n ive met her b4 n her friends r cool, its jus wether its summer or winter this kid always ends up wit his shirt off n im sure tamarro will b no different

....not that im completly outa shape but ive never seen a girl drool like they do when they see him, every girl in tha room starts rubbin on him n what tha fuck am i possed ta do? TAKE PICTURES FOR THEM?!?

Hope this was easier on the eyes 4 everyone,

J.Z.
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Old 07-11-2008, 08:39 AM
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thats much easier on the eyes, thanks. next work on spell check (if you use firefox as your browser it checks spelling automatically).

the only suggestion i can make is to be the alpha. if he's your friend, then just tell him he's gotta let you be alpha and be the leader some times. if chicks see that this incredibly cute guy is following your lead, then maybe they'll be even more impressed with you. just tell him that tonight is his turn to be the wingman and let you take the lead and the pick of the litter, even a non-pua friend can understand that.
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Old 07-11-2008, 09:57 AM
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Yeah dude. You write a lot. I wanted to help but I just cant read that much.

Do you have a very energetic personality by any chance? Just a cold read but you probably need to slow down your interactions and excitability. Be chill, calm and cool. Girls like that.
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