Gaming acquaintances

[Troy20th]

There are alot of girls out there that i want to sleep with, if i didn't know them already i would have no trouble gaming them, however i do already know them. Their not really friends but i have hung out with them a couple times already just as friends would. i was wondering how i could break past the friends status next time i see them.

Also this is my first time posting a question here so if its in the wrong spot sorry.

[kicknitinkc]

In my experience, I've had a lot of success with turning long or short-term friends into sexual relationships, and from what I've learned, you can't just hop the friendship barrier in one sitting. Simply put: You have to go out, do fun things, and demonstrate to them that other women have a good time with you/want you/etc. It can take months, but eventually they will show more interest, and you will have to pull the trigger. All of the "barrier jumps" have happened to me at a house party.

[Troy20th]

i was really hoping of something faster. i was thinking - and i want your opinion on whether you think this will work or not.

ok so i invite her over to my house, we talk, watch a movie, then i tell her i'm really sore from the gym today and ask her to massage my back. after letting her massage me for awhile tell her she's doing it all wrong, and then show her how its done. and then hopefully phase shift.

i havent had a chance to try this yet but let me know your thoughts on it.

also can i get some tips on breaking past LMR's especially when freeze outs backfire ie. the girl gets on with her day

[Mation]

I have this same problem. I was in a LTR for 7 years, and during that time, I had a MASSIVE social circle. Because of that, I know lots of girls that I've never talked to on a gaming/more than friends level. Since then, I've had some success with girls I already know (I'm dating one now) but for the most part, the friend zone is like quicksand. The harder you try to get out, the deeper you sink. A lot of it depends on how well you already know the girl, how close you've been previously, and how long since you've seen her. If you have hung out a lot, been close, or seen her recently, it's a lot harder. The girl who I'm dating in that category I've known for a while, but she doesn't live in my town anymore and I started gaming her after I hadn't seen her for over a year. IME you're much better off gaming girls you don't know already. Either way, though, the key to staying/getting out of the friend zone is KINO. Good luck, man.