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Old 05-04-2008, 12:33 AM
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I mean im no genius here guys but what sounds like is missing is investment.
I can get a number from any girl any day of the week but if the transaction was quick and you shared a couple laughs (like 3 minutes) you got the numba and dipped there are a couple things wrong with this. First you need to add like 3 more minutes after the number close so she doesnt think its a pickup. Make her feel like your looking for more that just her number. Second lets say you go into your opener, you hook and you start your routine. now in the middle throw in your number close or whatever (point being dont make the number your trophy of the interaction. You wanted more than the number in the long run right?)So make sure to do a couple compliance tests. Talk about dancing and have her do a little spin(investment). The more invested she is the more memorable the experience was and that means the more like she will respond to ur call. HB's get hit on all the time you have to beable to stand out when 29 minutes down the road she gets some other trying to get her numba. (be the exeption to the rule) Also giving her an ANCHOR to remember you by can be a powerful tool in this case. Make it part of a compliance test and when she looks at your anchor shell remember the feelings you had together so the emotion doesnt fade and shell want that experience again.
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Old 05-05-2008, 06:03 AM
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I mean im no genius here guys but what sounds like is missing is investment.
I can get a number from any girl any day of the week but if the transaction was quick and you shared a couple laughs (like 3 minutes) you got the numba and dipped there are a couple things wrong with this. First you need to add like 3 more minutes after the number close so she doesnt think its a pickup. Make her feel like your looking for more that just her number. Second lets say you go into your opener, you hook and you start your routine. now in the middle throw in your number close or whatever (point being dont make the number your trophy of the interaction. You wanted more than the number in the long run right?)So make sure to do a couple compliance tests. Talk about dancing and have her do a little spin(investment). The more invested she is the more memorable the experience was and that means the more like she will respond to ur call. HB's get hit on all the time you have to beable to stand out when 29 minutes down the road she gets some other trying to get her numba. (be the exeption to the rule) Also giving her an ANCHOR to remember you by can be a powerful tool in this case. Make it part of a compliance test and when she looks at your anchor shell remember the feelings you had together so the emotion doesnt fade and shell want that experience again.
i totally disagree

yes, staying a few minutes after you get the number is always better than getting the number than leaving.

however, you don't need to do all of that if she is already giving you IoIs, if she is giving you IoIs, you can get her number and leave. Then a few days later, call her for a Day 2.

THe other thing I disagree on is HB, HBs no matter how hot they are don't always get hit on ALL the time.

If its night game, of course they will get hit on. IF its day game, they will rarely get hit on. During the day(from my experience) I see hot girls sitting by themselves or playing with their phone. I have yet seen a random guy approach a random girl during day game(in my college).

Do HBs get hit on a lot? yes, but not in certain situations. If its night game, then you will have competition. if its day game, then nobody is competing against you.

Also, EVERY girl flakes, even if you stayed 25 minutes and quaified her, she will still flake. The best way to get a girl to not flake on you is by chatting on the phone. Get her used to you then ask for a date. Otherwise, she will flake regardless on how well the interaction went

Agree on

1. staying a few minutes after you get the number

disagree on

1. YOU HAVE to stay a few minutes after you get the number(you don't always have to stay if you get IoIs)

2. HBs get hit on a lot(not on day game)
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Old 05-11-2008, 10:12 PM
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I also recomed pre-flaking on the girl so they value your time. i think Braddock or Brad P wrote about that once.
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Old 05-12-2008, 01:06 AM
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sweet sauce i disagree with you when you said.
Also, EVERY girl flakes, even if you stayed 25 minutes and quaified her, she will still flake. The best way to get a girl to not flake on you is by chatting on the phone. Get her used to you then ask for a date. Otherwise, she will flake regardless on how well the interaction went

Not true. my specialty is day game and if your going to go do an approach, it should not last 6 mins. it doesnt matter how many IOIs you get if all your doing is waiting 6 mins and D closing its obvious that it was a pickup. women are much more perceptive than men. also why would you cut the interaction so short if you could have instadate right at the place your at? if you stay in set for 25 mins and your actually using game and not afc stuff.
then 100 percent guarunteed she will not flake. timebridges are gold in day game. but in order for that to happen you have to reach her soulmate level. it should never be a pickup, it should be a chance coincidence that you bumped into her walking through campus and that led to this amazing interaction. that you want to repeat again.
and yes it should be halfway into the interaction that you D close. and also one of the keys to day game is that you show your willing to walk away.

also they do get hit on but by those retarded guys who are using those cheezy ass pickup lines. hey looks like the parties over hear... you know the frat types, not trying to hate on frats but in general its true, for me at least.
not as much as in nightclubs though agreed.
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