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Old 01-22-2008, 06:42 PM
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Default My own Sugar and Spice. Aka. Kino-Neg Technique

This is a little long but a diamond in the rough. I am sharing this with you because it works for me. And as a community we build on each others success and failure.

I have noticed and used a new technique that, to my knowledge, no one has used or expanded on. I will try to the best of my ability to explain it in this email, though i feel that in person or via the phone would be better.

Neg's which i first learned about in Mystery's and Style's books are a powerful tool. But i agree with Savoy (like he say in the Magic Bullet) that they are misunderstood and overused, and as you know Kino is a physical touch of any kind. If feel both are equally powerful and necessary.

That is why i have thought about combining the both to form what i call a Kino-Neg. A Kino-Neg depending on the type/style it is used in, I feel is a powerful tool to help build comfort. I hope this example will help.

While talking to an HB, during the attraction or comfort phase (still working it out, though i feel it could be used in multiple stages), you ask her to close her eyes for a moment. And make the action of taking something out of her eye, like a little piece of eye crust. Though she is embarrassed by this, she will thank you because of your action. Your move has done two things, neg her and lowered her value, and increased your value, because you showed, comfort, care etc.

Another example i have used in the field is during dinner, which means you are either on day two or had a venue change during your first meeting. This kino-neg involves you taking you napkin and gently wiping the edge of her mouth while you are talking during dinner (obviously once the food has arrived and your are eating). Like before i she will become a little embarrassed though thankful.

I feel that the Kino-Neg is a rough diamond, because it does two things at the same time, which are opposites in many respects. Messing with here internal circuitry. I hope my examples helped explain the Kino-Neg, if you have any questions or comments please Private message me or reply to this post. Please give me you honest opinion. I am looking forward to response.

Furthermore, if you want to go out let me know. I am based in San Diego.
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Old 01-22-2008, 06:55 PM
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I hear ya. You could also pretend to take an eyelash off her face (not an attached one weirdo)
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Old 01-22-2008, 07:18 PM
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Or remove a piece of lint or something from her hair (which you already had secreted in your pocket beforehand).
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The eyelash mentioned my Finch33, is a good option. The Kino-Neg for me, or how i use it, it to help build comfort. Some may say but you are Negging her. This is true. But you are showing concern, caring, and overall raising you S & R value.
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Old 01-27-2008, 10:50 PM
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Wow, great stuff here. I'm definatly gonna start using some of these, and I think you're right--it can be used in many stages.

I do ALWAYS do something like this when I meet a girl, and I think it can be considered a kino-neg. I just never thought of the importance of what I was doing in the-bringing down social status-neg-situation.

At some point, usually closer to comfort I'll ask a girl to scratch my back for me. I make it sound really important or urgent like "Hey, can I ask you a huge favor? will you scratch my back right here. I can't reach." It never gets turned down, it puts me socially higher than her (she's doing something I asked of her, especially if other people are around to witness) and it also involves her touching me (building comfort). I knew it was gold, I just never had a name for it. Kino-neg. love it.
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