A few months into learning game, I seduced and actually dated a genuine HB10 model. Several other instructors have asked me how I closed her, so I thought it was about time I wrote a solid report on how I did it.
Most importantly, the early stages of our interactions were over MySpace and msn as she was away a lot touring or on a shoot of one sort or another. With the continuing meteoric rise of Facebook, I think an online skill set is a valuable thing to have, to be able to convert just chatting to a gorgeous girl, to an actual real life meet up.
HBModel technically ‘opened’ me first; she sent me a ‘friend request’ on MySpace to her page. Bands and models etc generally send out thousands of these so don’t think it was because of my natural stunning good looks(!), I was just one of many she had hit up that day.
I replied to her friend request and simply asked how I knew her as she had added me first. Being ‘normal’ is the key to talking to this kind of girl. I actually ran her MySpace for a couple of days while she was away and so I have seen first hand some of cheesy, dirty, disgusting and downright disturbing kind of messages a girl like her receives, so trust me, a genuine, almost AFC style message will stand out a mile. (See
Magic Bullets for ‘Hired Gun’ game tips)
The key to this standard of woman is to understand their world. She exists in a world full of people who judge her solely on her looks and is used to guys responding to her in a mainly sexual way. Having met her and a lot of her model friends, it’s become obvious that these girls are all very sexual in themselves otherwise they wouldn’t be doing this kind of job, so it’s important that you acknowledge this, but don’t dwell on it. By that I mean make your conversation about the most opposite kind of things possible and but her on it if she mentions anything sexual.
I made it a personal goal to make her ask for my msn and or phone number first, that I would not be needy. Looking back on this with the knowledge I’ve gained from
Mr M and
Braddock’s
Social Circle work, this is pure abundance mentality. I assume the frame I speak to lots of girls who are models and 10’s, therefore I don’t really need anymore numbers in my phone.
To make this goal more achievable I studied her profile to pick up details about her personality and interests. This is why sometimes online rapport building can be so much easier – everything about her personality is there for you to see!
I knew what kind of music she was into etc and, that she designs her own page and knows a tiny bit of HTML code. I did a degree in computer programming and animation so am quite solid in HTML, so I was able to build attraction by complimenting her on some of the layouts etc she had done to her page.
This is both a DHV and shows I have value, as she knows that I am knowledgeable in a field she is interested in, but importantly, I was able to show her that I could appreciate something about her that didn’t involve her looks. I was careful not to directly offer any advice about it however, again so I would not come across as someone who was desperately trying to be friends with her.
A quick side note on this: My
social circle includes many people who are celebrities or of a very high value and the one common thing about them is they can instantly spot people who are just trying to ‘make friends’ with them so they can say they know them or to take value. You should always offer value, not seek to take it. Not even see it as an exchange; if I can do something for you, I will, and I wont expect anything back. As I said, these people can very quickly sniff out value takers and will flag you as that kind of person immediately and you will not be able to recover.
By this point, I had established that I was a cool, chilled out guy and I had value. It’s also worth mentioning that at this stage, we were still communicating via messages on MySpace, no msn/phone etc, and I was still determined not to ask for it.
It got to the stage where she was asking for my help to do something tricky with the layout of her page. I messaged her saying what she wanted to do was kind of awkward and wrote an intentionally long and complicated message back to her. I got a very simple one line reply:
“Do you have msn? Would be easier to talk me through it I think..!! xxx”
BUT! This is still a hoop she has thrown up, asking for my msn address, and if I jump through it, I will have lost control of the frame; for every hoop a girl throws for you to jump through, have one of your own for her to go through FIRST so you have a justifiable reason to answer.
So, I wrote back saying that I did, but I was at work so couldn’t really chat at that moment, but she should drop me hers and Id add her when I got home.
By making her wait to talk to me, I’m showing value; I have other things going on in my life and talking to her is not massively high on my list at this point in time. HBModel replies with her msn address and begs me to add her and talk to her when I’m free.
During the subsequent msn conversations, I mentioned a party I was going to and that she should come, she then gave me her number and told me to text her mine.
At this stage Id known her for about 2 weeks and hadn’t actually met her yet, all this had been achieved through msn and MySpace! It was therefore very important I made a solid congruent impression when I met her for the first time in person, not seem nervous or shy, but how I am on msn is how I am in real life.
Saying that, it is important that if you have gamed a girl over msn etc that no matter how far your conversations have gone, you should assume you are starting again from scratch. If, for example, you’ve taken the conversation very sexual and even gotten to describe the outrageous things you’re going to do to each other, you should never assume this level of buying temperature when you first meet her.
Girls will be very explicit when they don’t have to verbalise what they’re saying. She will obviously see you as a sexual being rather than just some guy, but just don’t assume that just because she’s told you something on msn that she will instantly leap to doing it the second she meets you.
So I met up with her and her friend (HBFriend) and went to the venue. Her friend was in a bit of a bad mood after some guys at the club they were in previously had been really rude to her. So I thought Id kill 2 birds with one stone (so to speak!). I told HBModel that I was going to go cheer her friend up, and then proceeded to flirt outrageously with her. I ran several routines, some magic, loads of
kino, hugging her, hi-5's etc (check out
magic bullets for some great routines and
kino tips) whilst at the same time completely ignoring HBModel.
Eventually, after putting a massive smile on HBFriend’s face, I got her talking with a solid friend and I went and sat back next to HBModel. She was suddenly all over me, arm around me, solid
kino, giving me 100% attention.
So I begin amping up
kino, stroking hair etc, then at about 4am her friend announces she wants to go to a rave with my friend and would HBModel be ok getting back to the hotel on her own. Valiantly, I offered to escort her and she literally jumped out of her seat and said she was ready to go right now!
Being sexually dominant with girls like this is extremely important, they want to know you’re not intimidated by them and can take charge. At the hotel I make sure Im confident and dominant, throw her on the bed, and you can imagine the rest from there!
She later told me that kissing her first was a huge thing for her, as guys are normally too scared to try it and she has to be the one to initiate.
So there you have it, I ended up dating her for a few months and we split up amicably and still see each other. Its important with girls like that to keep them as part of your
social circle as they are SOLID connectors and what better way to be introduced to a set of gorgeous girls than by one of their friends who thinks you’re awesome!
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