this is actually my proudest moment in pick-up. i mean...if you check my journal and fr's and lr's, i've had some pretty wild times since i've started this. i've picked up i girl in walmart and got head from her next to her bowflex a few hours later. i've had
3somes. i've had snl's. i've pulled milfs from clubs to my truck to get head - or more, dancefloor handjobs blah blah blah blah. all that stuff is fun, but it's honestly not as big of a deal as it sounds.
sometimes, the less glamorous stuff is where the true skill lies. i was talking to lexicon about this the day after it happened, and since i haven't had time to write the fr on it, i'm just gonna copy and paste our conversation for the fr. it explains it all pretty well, and it includes some great theory that we came up with to commentate it.
this takes place at the sawgrass mall this past sunday, at the end of a day-game session.
DJELEV8 [12:36 P.M.]: so i'm going to my car
DJELEV8 [12:36 P.M.]: i spot a GORGEOUS chick in her mid 20's
DJELEV8 [12:36 P.M.]: she's like....a 10
DJELEV8 [12:36 P.M.]: maybe a high 9
DJELEV8 [12:36 P.M.]: it would all depend on how she dressed her self up
Lexicon [12:36 P.M.]: yeah... one on "that level".
DJELEV8 [12:36 P.M.]: yesterday she was a 10
DJELEV8 [12:37 P.M.]: you ever see chronicles of riddick?
Lexicon [12:37 P.M.]: yeah.
DJELEV8 [12:37 P.M.]: or mission impossible 2
DJELEV8 [12:37 P.M.]: you know that exotic looking chick with the brown hair?
Lexicon [12:37 P.M.]: in chronicles she was the one in jail?
DJELEV8 [12:37 P.M.]: na
Lexicon [12:37 P.M.]: who wanted his bone?
DJELEV8 [12:37 P.M.]: she was the necromonger
Lexicon [12:37 P.M.]: oh right.
Lexicon [12:37 P.M.]: yeah.
DJELEV8 [12:37 P.M.]: well, she looked JUST like that chick, but with a better body
Lexicon [12:37 P.M.]: god we're such nerds.
Lexicon [12:37 P.M.]: LOL.
DJELEV8 [12:37 P.M.]: haha yea
DJELEV8 [12:38 P.M.]: dude, she was a dead ringer for that chick, but just a better body
Lexicon [12:38 P.M.]: wow, yeah man, that's nice.
DJELEV8 [12:38 P.M.]: so i saw her from a far
Lexicon [12:38 P.M.]: thicker probably, right?
DJELEV8 [12:38 P.M.]: yea, a little thicker
Lexicon [12:38 P.M.]: totally.
DJELEV8 [12:38 P.M.]: 'cause that chick is skinny lol
Lexicon [12:38 P.M.]: lol, yeah exactly.
DJELEV8 [12:38 P.M.]: so ok, i start to walk up to her, and i'm hit with a snag
DJELEV8 [12:38 P.M.]: she appears to be a single mother
DJELEV8 [12:39 P.M.]: 'cause she's got 2 little kids who pop up from behind a fountain
Lexicon [12:39 P.M.]: HAHA.
Lexicon [12:39 P.M.]: man that was a pretty funny mental image.
DJELEV8 [12:39 P.M.]: i'm like shit, i can't hit on a girl in front of her little kids, what the f**k am i supposed to say
DJELEV8 [12:39 P.M.]: lol
DJELEV8 [12:39 P.M.]: so at this point i'm still far away
DJELEV8 [12:39 P.M.]: i'm still walking that way because i need to get to the exit
DJELEV8 [12:39 P.M.]: when i walk passed her i'm just totally taken by her beauty
DJELEV8 [12:39 P.M.]: she was a f**k knockout
DJELEV8 [12:40 P.M.]: like...definitely one of the most attractive women i've ever approached
DJELEV8 [12:40 P.M.]: probably top 2
Lexicon [12:40 P.M.]: awesome.
DJELEV8 [12:40 P.M.]: and i've approached nearly 2000 chicks at this point (edit: it's probably more than that by now lol)
DJELEV8 [12:40 P.M.]: lol
Lexicon [12:40 P.M.]: lol.
DJELEV8 [12:40 P.M.]: ok...so i'm walking past, and for the first time in months, i just can't think of anything to say
DJELEV8 [12:40 P.M.]: i'm totally blank
DJELEV8 [12:41 P.M.]: 'cause the kids are there
DJELEV8 [12:41 P.M.]: i don't have experience gaming girls in front of their kids
Lexicon [12:41 P.M.]: right.
DJELEV8 [12:41 P.M.]: when you approach a chick and she's with her kids, something kicks in that's hardwired into her brain - protection from predators
DJELEV8 [12:41 P.M.]: any stranger in that situation is a potential threat
DJELEV8 [12:41 P.M.]: so you get an obsticle to overcome by default
Lexicon [12:42 P.M.]: yeah, exactly.
Lexicon [12:42 P.M.]: too bad you didn't bring a puppy with you.
Lexicon [12:42 P.M.]: instant kid diffusing.
DJELEV8 [12:42 P.M.]: my dog is a bitch, it would have bit the kids lol
Lexicon [12:42 P.M.]: HAHA... well whatever would have gotten them away.
DJELEV8 [12:42 P.M.]: hahahah
DJELEV8 [12:42 P.M.]: ok....
DJELEV8 [12:42 P.M.]: so needless to say, i walk past her and keep going
DJELEV8 [12:42 P.M.]: but then i start kicking myself
DJELEV8 [12:43 P.M.]: 'cause it gave me anxiety and i'm supposed to be over my aa
DJELEV8 [12:43 P.M.]: but then i'm rationalizing the fact that she's got kids
DJELEV8 [12:43 P.M.]: that are there
Lexicon [12:43 P.M.]: yep, exactly.
DJELEV8 [12:43 P.M.]: and then i start to think that i don't want to be rude around her children
DJELEV8 [12:43 P.M.]: but then i'm like "i'll never see her again, this is my only shot"
DJELEV8 [12:43 P.M.]: so i turn back, and look for her
Lexicon [12:43 P.M.]: man, once you get in with that line of thought... jesus, unstoppable.
Lexicon [12:43 P.M.]: very paul janka.
Lexicon [12:44 P.M.]: lol.
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: yea dude
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: so then i look for her
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: and she's sitting on another f**k fountain with the kids
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: they're throwing change in the fountain
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: i post up about 50 feet away, and wait for a time for the kids to wander off a bit so i can approach
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: nothing...
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: so i'm like, "f**k it"
DJELEV8 [12:44 P.M.]: and i start to walk back...
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: then i'm like "i'm being a f**k pussy...forget the kids, just open"
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: lol
Lexicon [12:45 P.M.]: LOL
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: the kids threw me for a loop dude
Lexicon [12:45 P.M.]: yeah, exactly.
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: if they weren't there, this would have been a non-issue
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: she woulda been opened by my in 2.3 seconds lol
Lexicon [12:45 P.M.]: ironically it was probably a non-issue to begin with.
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: yea
Lexicon [12:45 P.M.]: you just made it one.
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: becaue i didn't know how to act around it
Lexicon [12:45 P.M.]: god reality is a funny thing.
DJELEV8 [12:45 P.M.]: yea
Lexicon [12:46 P.M.]: yeah, totally, but i'm sure you could break down everything that way.
DJELEV8 [12:46 P.M.]: yea
Lexicon [12:46 P.M.]: well, go on with the story, and we can theorize after.
DJELEV8 [12:46 P.M.]: lol
DJELEV8 [12:46 P.M.]: so i walk thru the parking lot now, and i spot her putting the kids in the seat belts
DJELEV8 [12:46 P.M.]: i pull out my phone, look at it, and then walk up and say...
DJELEV8 [12:46 P.M.]: "excuse me, do you know what time it is? the clock on this phone is messed up"
Lexicon [12:47 P.M.]: yes, classic!
Lexicon [12:47 P.M.]: lol.
DJELEV8 [12:47 P.M.]: and she's like "yea, this phone is the same way...hold on"
DJELEV8 [12:47 P.M.]: and tells me the time
DJELEV8 [12:47 P.M.]: so then this is classic right here, and this is my proud achievement lol
DJELEV8 [12:47 P.M.]: i know i don't have a lot of time
DJELEV8 [12:47 P.M.]: so i jump right into seduction
DJELEV8 [12:48 P.M.]: i hit her with the laser eyes
Lexicon [12:48 P.M.]: haha
DJELEV8 [12:48 P.M.]:
soul gaze into her
DJELEV8 [12:48 P.M.]: drop my tone, and say
DJELEV8 [12:48 P.M.]: "do you have any idea how absolutely gorgeous you are?"
DJELEV8 [12:48 P.M.]: she starts giggling and blushing
Lexicon [12:49 P.M.]: shock and awe.
DJELEV8 [12:49 P.M.]: and then i said something else after that
DJELEV8 [12:49 P.M.]: i don't remember exactly my words, but i was working off of that
DJELEV8 [12:50 P.M.]: then i said "normally i wouldn't do this, but you're about to leave, and we'll never see each other again. would you like to exchange numbers so that we can continue this conversation and possibly hang out sometime?"
DJELEV8 [12:50 P.M.]: dude, she was right on it
Lexicon [12:51 P.M.]: yep.
DJELEV8 [12:51 P.M.]: while she was about to take down my number, i said a few more things, and she kept telling me i was making her blush
DJELEV8 [12:51 P.M.]: then i gave her a kiss on the cheek and we went our separate ways
DJELEV8 [12:51 P.M.]: the whole time her kids were like "mommy mommy who's that"
DJELEV8 [12:51 P.M.]: lol
Lexicon [12:51 P.M.]: lol, "the man i'm going to banging in a couple of day kids. So shut your mouths."
DJELEV8 [12:51 P.M.]: and she kept just like telling them to chill lol
DJELEV8 [12:52 P.M.]: basically that's the vibe it was
DJELEV8 [12:52 P.M.]: but the reason why i'm so happy about this approach
Lexicon [12:52 P.M.]: yep.
DJELEV8 [12:52 P.M.]: isn't because of the fact that it took like 2 minutes to close
DJELEV8 [12:52 P.M.]: or because of how hot she was
Lexicon [12:52 P.M.]: it's what you overcame?
DJELEV8 [12:52 P.M.]: it was because of the type of person she was, and how i was able to win her over
DJELEV8 [12:52 P.M.]: like...some chicks are easy
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: i can tell a lot about a person when i first meet them
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: first impressions are everything
Lexicon [12:53 P.M.]: right.
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: mannerisms, tonality
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: facial expressions
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: actions
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: all that
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: shows a lot
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: and this girl was not an easy pull
DJELEV8 [12:53 P.M.]: any random guy could not have gotten her - especially with her kids right there. i chalk all of that up to my training and newfound understanding of social dynamics
Lexicon [12:54 P.M.]: good work man.
DJELEV8 [12:54 P.M.]: and the other thing was
Lexicon [12:54 P.M.]: that's all it takes.
DJELEV8 [12:54 P.M.]: the fact that i was able to build such a high level of attraction almost instantly
Lexicon [12:54 P.M.]: fulfillment.
DJELEV8 [12:54 P.M.]: dude...i felt like i had a magic potion
DJELEV8 [12:54 P.M.]: that i slipped into her drink before we met lol
Lexicon [12:54 P.M.]: LOL
DJELEV8 [12:54 P.M.]: that's what caused the "ah ha moment" that i wrote about in my journal
Lexicon [12:55 P.M.]: yeah man, it's called laser
soul gazing.
Lexicon [12:55 P.M.]: lol.
DJELEV8 [12:55 P.M.]: hahaha
DJELEV8 [12:55 P.M.]: that's part of it lol
Lexicon [12:55 P.M.]: you know guys who get really good at this stuff say this a lot, but after awhile you just start to get away with everything.
DJELEV8 [12:55 P.M.]: but yea...that's what had me truly accept my skill...it all just came at me yesterday after that like "dude...i'm really f**k good"
Lexicon [12:55 P.M.]: yep exactly.
DJELEV8 [12:55 P.M.]: it's so true
DJELEV8 [12:56 P.M.]: and it's not like i'm some stunningly good looking dude
Lexicon [12:56 P.M.]: i mean, truthfully, a person who is new to this would criticize and say, "oh you asked a question that's supplicative" or whatever.
Lexicon [12:56 P.M.]: i think you're cute. LOL.
DJELEV8 [12:56 P.M.]: i mean...i like to think i'm an 8...but who knows lol
Lexicon [12:56 P.M.]: but that doesn't matter anyway.
Lexicon [12:56 P.M.]: there's guys who are models out there who can't get laid.
DJELEV8 [12:56 P.M.]: but what that newbie wouldn't understand is that my question was rhetorical
Lexicon [12:57 P.M.]: not only that but it doesn't matter.
DJELEV8 [12:57 P.M.]: it was rhettorical because i knew the answer was yes lol
DJELEV8 [12:57 P.M.]: yea
Lexicon [12:57 P.M.]: lol, well, what i'm saying is...
Lexicon [12:57 P.M.]: women talk on the underneath.
DJELEV8 [12:57 P.M.]: yea
Lexicon [12:57 P.M.]: so they hear on the underneath also.
Lexicon [12:57 P.M.]: thats why no matter what pimp ass line you could pull out if underneath a guy is fearful or self-conscious they know.
Lexicon [12:58 P.M.]: but if you have that charisma and confidence down.
DJELEV8 [12:58 P.M.]: also...you know what works for me as well?
Lexicon [12:58 P.M.]: shit, you could walk up to a girl and say, "I am a total loser who doesn't know who to talk to girls, and i live with my parents. Can i take you out to dinner and a movie?"
Lexicon [12:58 P.M.]: what's that?
DJELEV8 [12:58 P.M.]: throwing in some afc mannerisms
DJELEV8 [12:58 P.M.]: allowing the old shy me to come out, but not truly be the old shy me
DJELEV8 [12:59 P.M.]: it's a way of throwing off my game ability
Lexicon [12:59 P.M.]: actually, you know what i've been doing some thinking on this AFC paradigm.
Lexicon [12:59 P.M.]: because of what you're saying, i do the same thing.
DJELEV8 [12:59 P.M.]: so it comes off more natural and less gamey
Lexicon [12:59 P.M.]: i use "AFC" stuff all the time.
Lexicon [12:59 P.M.]: yeah, exactly that's what i was thinking about.
DJELEV8 [12:59 P.M.]: it really helps
Lexicon [12:59 P.M.]: like an AFC says those "emotional" things to be manipulative.
DJELEV8 [12:59 P.M.]: when you get really good at game, you end up having to dumb it down or you'll get found out lol
DJELEV8 [1:00 P.M.]: when i was an afc and i said cute and heartfelt shit like, and it was honest
DJELEV8 [1:00 P.M.]: but i was too much of a pussy
DJELEV8 [1:00 P.M.]: and too needy
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: yeah, that's the key.
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: that neediness.
DJELEV8 [1:01 P.M.]: they liked the down to earth, honest, and humble side of me, but i couldn't supplement it with a strong alpha persona
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: you said it because you needed something from her.
DJELEV8 [1:01 P.M.]: now i have booth, and it's key
DJELEV8 [1:01 P.M.]: yea
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: now you say it because it is a beautiful and loving thing to say to another person.
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: and you don't need anything.
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: you are self-actualized.
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: you just are spreading the love.
Lexicon [1:01 P.M.]: LOL.
DJELEV8 [1:01 P.M.]: so the key is, to make the interaction come off completely random. by throwing some afc in the mix, it masks the true game behind it
DJELEV8 [1:01 P.M.]: yup
DJELEV8 [1:02 P.M.]: it almost comes off as you're the nice guy who just happened to find the balls to talk to the hot chick
Lexicon [1:02 P.M.]: yeah, exactly. Actually guys should never ever come off gamey. That is totally cheesy.
Lexicon [1:02 P.M.]: yep, exactly.
Lexicon [1:02 P.M.]: and women f**k love that.
DJELEV8 [1:02 P.M.]: yup
Lexicon [1:02 P.M.]: just having the balls to lay it on the line without caring what happens.
Lexicon [1:02 P.M.]: that is the essence of confidence, in my opinion.
DJELEV8 [1:02 P.M.]: dude, now i'm coming up with all new theories ;alkdjf;alkdfj;alkdjf;alkdjf
Lexicon [1:02 P.M.]: hahahahahaha.
DJELEV8 [1:02 P.M.]: i type stuff like: a;lkdjf;alkdfj;alkdfja;ldkjf when i'm excited and can't think of words
DJELEV8 [1:02 P.M.]: lol
Lexicon [1:03 P.M.]: HAHAHAHA
Lexicon [1:03 P.M.]: it works.
DJELEV8 [1:03 P.M.]: a;lkdja;ldkjf thanks
Lexicon [1:03 P.M.]: i'm gonna seriously keep pressing you to start a dating company until you do it.
Lexicon [1:03 P.M.]: lol.
Lexicon [1:03 P.M.]: cause you know you should be doing it.
DJELEV8 [1:03 P.M.]: lol...
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Fr: My proudest moment in pick-up thus far! 
i'm not going to go back and forth with you. if you didn't get much out of the fr, that's fine. no need for me to try to force you to like it, you're allowed your own opinion. if you think it was a boring fr, technically you're not wrong, because you personally thought it was boring. your thoughts are your thoughts, so no need for me to argue about them. however, if you're ever interested in learing a little bit about this thing we call pick-up and self-improvement, let me know. i'm here to help - not argue. 
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