Following up quick number closes off direct day game? - The Attraction Forums

ware_ru · #1 08-19-2008, 11:50 PM

After reading the Project Rockstar thread and some of Soul's posts on direct day game, I started doing those super direct, chase them down the street and tell them they're beautiful, approaches.

I started doing it. and I fucking love it. But guys - literally every single number flakes. Any advice?

What usually happens is I chase them down, tell them I had to meet them or they're gorgeous, they get really smiley and impressed with my approach, then we fluff talk back and forth for a few minutes and I usually say "I'd love to see you again" and either they or I offer to exchange numbers.

I text later that day, usually "hey [nickname or dork or cutie or something] do you speak text? :-) - ware_ru" and sometimes they don't even answer that. If they answer that text, usually by the second day they don't answer texts or calls anymore. Every single one of 10 or 20 numbers has gone like this. Wtf?

There are a few adjustments I know I have to make: I will try to insta-date more, I need to qualify and do more identity grounding (though I'm not exactly sure how to structure these things during day game), I should time bridge so that there's a REASON for me calling her again, I should stick around longer after the number close (these are all just standard things you do in night game as well) and also when I number close I think it would be stronger to do the Sinn number close, "hey listen I have to run but you seem cool, I promise nothing but good conversation but let's exchange numbers. And if we like each other on the phone maybe we'll see each other again."

But often there just isn't the time to do all of that. Or maybe the initial pickup isn't super strong. But still, girls NEVER get approached competently during the day, especially not with a direct approach; I'm sure they remember the approach and are still attracted, but are no longer in state and just don't pick up the goddamn phone! If I can get them on the phone I know I can game them well from there, but these chicks NEVER pick up; I'm not sure if sending that first text message on the same day is too soon - since the initial interaction wasn't that long or strong, it kind of reduces the romantic and mysterious air.

The next batch of numbers I get from this - I will not contact (text or call) them the same day, and instead call the next day.

young dubs · #2 08-20-2008, 02:00 PM

contacting durin the same day isn't bad... but its like you said you don't spend enough time... yeah its passionate and attractive and wonderful to approach a girl direct...but then you have to let them know you're not JUST there for their looks, you find somethin about them so adorable that you can't walk away, that you want to see them again..just like you said, qualify more, build more rapport

I've read some of your posts, you have good game, and a great grasp on things... I mean you answered your own questions in your post haha

I don't know if you do this or not, but make sure you store your name in the phone (or have them do it) preferably with somethin you flirted with her about so that when she sees your name come up it'll bring her back to that emotional state when you were in the conversation

remember, direct approach is about showing confidence and balls, don't forget to show it thru-out the entire interaction... but again you sound like you know what you're doin, maybe just wanted to see if anyone else had the same views as you and reinforce your beliefs haha

good luck, post some FR's, help us and yourself break everything down, I got a couple more to post as well, including some facebook pick ups!

Much Love,

Dubs

ware_ru · #3 08-20-2008, 02:07 PM

Haha, thanks man, I guess my main questions if I had to put them out concretely are:

1) Off that kind of short number close (5 minutes) without much qualification or comfort building, what should you do after in order to ensure they pickup? When shoudl the first contact be, and should it be call or text?

2) How do you get her to insta-date you. Assuming you both have time to do that, how far into the interaction do you insta-date, how do you bait for it, etc.

3) How do you structure qualification and comfort during day game? What if you can't get her on an insta-date because of logistics or time constraints or something? What kind of qualification is appropriate when you're standing in the middle of the street? (Can you cook, what nationality are you, etc. doesn't seem like it would hook well enough to sound genuine. How do you structure day game qualification and comfort, are there any resources for this?)

I mean these are all things we know we HAVE to do, but I haven't run any across good resources that say HOW to do it, in the same way that Magic Bullets and the VAH give a structure that is mostly directed toward nightgame.

young dubs · #4 08-20-2008, 06:01 PM

I think that "direct game" has been like frowned upon mostly (the whole, they hear it all the time mentality)... Thanks to certain coaches and some members direct game has gone in a whole new direction, the art of making yourself a natural, and that is very appealing... Since its so new or untouched, there's a lack of material... but enough of that, lets talk about your bullets...

the answers to the questions can be found here....

Soul's Day Game Q&A

ware_ru · #5 08-20-2008, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by young dubs

I think that "direct game" has been like frowned upon mostly (the whole, they hear it all the time mentality)... Thanks to certain coaches and some members direct game has gone in a whole new direction, the art of making yourself a natural, and that is very appealing... Since its so new or untouched, there's a lack of material... but enough of that, lets talk about your bullets...

the answers to the questions can be found here....

Soul's Day Game Q&A

Hey man thanks and I've already read that thread a couple times... it's an awesome thread, but what I'm looking for is a specific structure with concrete examples of the specific things you say in the interaction. Soul gave some great answers, but I still don't know what day game is supposed to sound like.

It's like, basically, the information that's out now gives a couple of good strong direct day game openers, and then says "ok and then have a normal conversation while you do these things logistically." And that's cool and still helpeful, but it would be nice to know in more detail how the conversation is supposed to look in order to 1) qualify and build comfort to a level where she will PICKUP THE GODDAMN PHONE WHEN YOU CALL (argh) while 2) not sounding like weird and inappropriate nightgame.

Also, I still don't know when/how to make the first contact after leaving the girl (esp. if it's a short interaction where there wasn't much qualification or comfort)

young dubs · #6 08-21-2008, 06:23 AM

I mean its more vague cause you're searchin for commonalities and are tailoring everythin to that one girl, you could be general at first and then narrow in..like somethin things I say are...

(especially if the girl is tan)... you look like you like to travel, if there were a jet parked outside your door tomorrow, ready to take us anywhere in the world where are we goin?

this can lead you into mannnnny conversations, you could role play her takin care of you on the beach, playin in the sand, where you're stayin, what activities you'll do, get her to talk about her fun past vacations, the sunsets you could watch and how romantic it'll be, etc..

then take an interest in what she's doin today, or what she likes to do for fun, you could simply just ask, what are you up to today? or besides seducing handsome men at the (wherever you met her), what do you do for fun?

if she has a shoppin bag, ask her what she bought... find out about her, and tell her things about yourself... I always say: "ok I have a really serious question for you...what's your favorite animal? ;-)" they usually smile or giggle or something and say how is that serious, or they'll just answer and I tell them that you can find out a lot about a person by their favorite animal, usually is a accurate representation of themselves ya know, then do a brief cold read off that.

another thing I say is "if you could have one super power what would it be" then brief cold read.

Talk about the things you have in common and mention doin them with her...oh you love to dance, I always wanted to take salsa lessons or swing lessons or break dance or whatever... I know this great place we should check out, see if you're light on your feet ;-)

when you program your number in her phone as well as her's in yours, stay and talk more, and then say, I really have to go, but I just can't stop talkin to you!! we have to finish this conversatoin later!!

just remember the tone of your conversation is very important, certain points be passionate, like the last line I just said, other times be playful and challenging, but just always remember to come off genuine and sincere

hope that is helpful!!

Much love,

Dubs