Who's not getting laid and Why?

[lobomau]

i wanna know if in day two i still got to dhv or just fluff?

[Satyre]

Hey Sinn,
Kind of asking a similar question as the previous, but I am having a problem having that HV, that charisma, stick after Day 1. I am kind of lost in the Comfort stage, and though I can build it, it takes too long, is not consistently sexually progressive, and contains a couple of awkward moments. DO you have any suggestions on how to keep these semi-'fluff' threads going beneficially?, and how to keep them directed to the bedroom? I have kind of been throwing mixed routines in with somewhat dry convo, which keeps my chances afloat, yet it is not as smooth as it should be.
Thanks man, we all appreciate your help.
Satyre-

[ChoppedLiver]

Successfull timebridging! I stopped asking for numbers because i can get them pretty easily but they always flake.
When i suggest a timebridge they always have an excuse not to make it and i don't wanna suggest alternatives because it looks try hard.
Not enough comfort??

[pontifex]

Hello Sinn,
I am still a virgin. I feel much better now that I know what I know about women, but I still haven't been able to muster up the courage to talk to a woman. I got a phone #, online, so that's about all the progress I have made since I found the community, almost 9 months ago. I guess I still need to work on my inner game, or perhaps bite the bullet and see a shrink. The problem is that I don't trust them, but again, I don't trust business people either. lol
To be honest, the more I lurk the forums the more depressed I feel. I keep reading stories about guys who have made tremendous amounts of progress in just a few weeks after finding the 'community', and yet I still haven't made any! I don't know what's wrong with me. Perhaps my brain is damaged, as some people here have suggested, in which case there is probably not much that can be done for me. Have you ever had a case like mine, and if so, what do you suggest I do to want to get off my ass and go talk to women?

[voodoo]

Sinn,
What do you do when inside an awkward pause. Say you open a lone wolf in day game in general, and the girl is genuinely shocked she got opened... how do you relieve the tension so it feels like a normal random conversation?

Here is a scenario. I open a girl walking in the same direction as me on the way to class. I try to act aloof and non-creepy and just ask something like "hey can I get your quick opinion, I'm on the way to class yada yada"
Sometimes the girl will seem very shy and/or shocked someone is talking to her. How do you relieve the tension and make her feel relaxed and cool talking to a total stranger. (Or how should you *not* act)?

Or is the problem possibly something to do with body language (in which case I just need to practice, practice, practice?

Also, how do you know when an (awkward) pause/silence is really a very shy girl who actually likes you? (when a girl is nervous around me like that, is that an IOI? How do I calibrate to it?)
What kind of stuff do you do to test it? What do you *not* do when sarging a shy girl?
PS. Saw you in the On Being a Man and Sexual Communication program asking a question, hah! I knew it was you as I saw you in field before.
Thanks for offering this ask/tell thread!

Learn more on your day game

[Sean Carter]

hey djc922- go to bristollair.com- there is ALOT of free resources there to get you started especially the tyler durden articles which are fucking incredible
also- try fastseduction.com, thundercatseductionlair.com and the forums here for lots of really good free info
lastly- subscribe to the mystery method OAP e-mail program- its completely free and gives you the BASIC structure of mystery method
hope that helps!
sinn- my problem is once i get indicators of interest from a girl i suddenly lose my 'coolness' in the situation and go back to being needy and stuff- its just like a few of the other posters- i cant beleive this stuff is actually working- oh and my kino game is weak as well cause im scared a chick might respond badly if i start touching her too much in a romantic way (like im cool with hugs and other non-explicitly romantic stuff but the hand holding and stuff is where i chicken out)

[Vdogg]

Few quick things...I can go out and get phone numbers the problem is I don't see them again. They either flake, don't pick up the phone, or think that I have 'PU vibe.' I want to come in very under the radar. I don't believe all girls want a player, creates all sorts of trust issues and a huge % will flake or be lost to LMR. Also need to get better at generating attraction, and opening mixed sets. If I can get her alone on a Day 2 and build comfort I'm usually in good shape.

[Robsrsx]

Pontifex
You need to work on your inner game bro, i feel for you, I have a friend just like you, he's 26 a good guy, he just dosent have the balls to talk to girls, hes almost at the point I think where he's comfortable at being that way and kinda given up on the whole thing of trying to pick up chicks, and thats not the place where you wanna get to. Try to do things that give value to yourself first , to bring your confidence up. This can be anything that makes you feel better at being you , a human being, and being a man. Work out, quit smoking, help an old lady accross the street, whatever it is start building up your confidence. Anything that takes some hard work will make you feel good abot yourself because it took effort, determination , and action and Start off slow, talk to ugly chicks or old women, as long as you are talkin to women, the other thing is don't have any expectations when you do talk to them . Do it for practice just to get rolling, once you see that its not a big deal to talk to females, than you will see that you can bring it up a notch maybe start talking to HB5s, 6, 7 8s, and so on what ever you find attractive.
Always stay positive , don't let anything get to you, if a chick tells you to get lost, remember it dosent say anything about you , maybe she's tired or pms'ing or she's just plain ignorant.
David D'eangelo suggest getting a product called the Science of personal achivement, by Napoleon Hill, you can get it on ebay cheap. Its an audio program about boosting your motivation to achive anything you desire. I heard good rewievs on it try that, hopefully it can help. All the best to you bro, i hope this helps.

[Eclectic]

Hey Sinn,
like a lot of others, I am OK at opening sets (direct and indirect, though still room for improvement) but I have alot of trouble recognising IOIs in the moment, and usually only realise when its too late. When I do get to the C1 stage I usually crash and burn from there as my frame is weak. I know that a women isn't really gonna come and give blatant IOIs but I think my frame is still weak despite all of the inner game work I have done. I conciously know what attracts, a girl, but it is isn't manifested in my behaviour. Also I think that I either come across as arrogant or nice, and can't seem to strike a happy medium.
Thanks very much in advance, and thanks for this thread.

[Levo]

Well I just finished reading the book and started the newbie last saturday. Then on tuesday I had a car wreck and totaled my car and broke my collar bone, so I havent done anything all week. Plan on starting back on Monday.
The few nights I did go out I found my problems to be AA, which I have determined to stem from lack of confidence in my material. I didnt memorise enough stuff the first time I went out and after I used the few things I remembered I sputtered out. Also I'm still working on confidence and frame control. All this is newbie stuff which I'm not sure will still be a problem after I actually become congruent with the new material and calibrate to my frame.
What really wanted advice on is how having my arm in a sling might affect my game. The doctor says I need it for a month. I think if I keep a strong frame I can keep their minds off of it but there will still be the elephant in the room of this guy is injured, which is very beta male.