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Old 02-21-2006, 02:39 AM
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My exerience is that when it 'feels' that a chicks in to you then she is, when it dosent 'feel' that she is in to you then she's not. Never doubt your feelings, even if they contradict the usual IOI's or if a friend tells you otherwise. (I used to ask my mates if I was right in my feelings, some friends they were, i.e. wrong ones)
For example; today in a lecture, a lass sat next to me, some rapore but she not my type was turned away from me, but leaning towards me, almost on me because the she was facing the lecturer.
Final note, I know some people find it difficult to second guess people's feelings but try and work on it, walk to a friend and say you look ........ and see if you are right.
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:52 AM
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I've got a new one-
I put a wallpaper of a girl k-closing me on my cell. Whenever a girl starts asking questions about it, it's an IOI.
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Old 02-24-2006, 12:52 AM
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I have to say, this is a quality thread. The question of what an IOI is has always been one of my biggest questions, and I think this thread should ultimately become required reading/sticky at some point. The OAP has a helpful list, but it's much too short. First, before I list a couple of (probable, marked as ?) IOI's I've experienced recently, I'd like to try to explain, for self clarification, what the underlying principle or core idea behind an IOI is. If my definition is not quite on the mark, please correct me. Also, feel free to let me know if I've properly identified the behaviors I've noted below as IOI's or not.
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I. Working Definition of an IOI:
The underlying premise or assumption of the IOI is that a girl is using her body or words in order to get closer to you (or to invite you to get closer to her). Whether it's by physical (body language) or mental (verbal cues) means, the girl is taking a risk, that is she is risking rejection and/or putting out subtle feelers to increase intimacy between herself and the male of her choice.
That's my best stab at a definition at midnight, when I should be out sarging but am in KJ mode instead.
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II. List of Probable/Possible IOI's
If I am mistaken, correct me. I absolutely will not take it personally. If I've correctly identified IOI's let me know also. Constructive feedback is the only way to learn.
Case 1:
These IOI's are from a conversation with a blonde6; I wrote up the details in my FR on the main board.
IOI 1: applying lipstick in front of me. This is after asking me if my students swoon over me (IOI 2?). (Underlying assumption: she needs to make herself more attractive to me).
IOI 3?: Near the end of our conversation, the blonde asks me what I'm going to be doing after I leave the martini lounge. She answers her own question by saying she thinks I'll have 'fun.' ('fun' being a euphemism for 'sex'?) (Underlying assumption: I'm a player).
IOI 4?: The blonde asks me what I do for work. I tell her I teach at a college. "Wow, that's VERY impressive," she says. (Underlying principle: DHV).
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These subtle (possible) IOI's are from the HB8.5 brunette/HB8 blonde two set I spoke immediately after number close on the blonde6.
Case 2:
IOI 1?: The brunette opens me with "are you the LA guy?" as I'm speaking/standing with my buds in front of her. (Underlying principle: she wants to initiate contact with me).
IOI 2?: I ask the blonde (HB8) about her recent trip to Boston. The blonde then tells me a story about how she got hit on/asked out for a date by a guy while she was at the subway station. She says it made her feel really good that day when she got hit on. This is the blonde who AI'ed me at least four times before I sent my bud in to open the set. (She is qualifying herself to me; she is also telling me that it would make her feel good if *I* hit on her right then and there).
IOI 3?: I tell the two girls I teach at a college. The blonde then asks me what college I teach at. I tell her. Then the blonde asks me which ROOM I teach in. I feel like this second question is too invasive and personal and I bust her on it: "Why do you want to know?" I ask, with a great deal of suspicion. "Are you planning on showing up--'hello', remember me from Saturday night?!" The blonde lowers her head and smiles but does not deny it.
(Underlying assumption: I'm going to stalk this guy lol).
Come to think of it, maybe I shoulda gamed the 8 more heavily than the 8.5. Sigh. Anyway, let me know if I'm on track or off base. Thanks in advance, and I hope I helped.
Edit/Update:
IOI 4?: This is from the brunette when I called her a couple of days later. During our brief chat, she asks me what I did after I left the martini lounge in the morning. This strikes me as being similar to the question asked by the blonde 6 in-set.
IOI 5: Brunette asks me my name in set.
Edit/Update Case 1:
IOI 5: blonde asks me my name.
IOI 6: blonde asks me my nationality.
IOI7: blonde asks me my age.
IOI 8: blonde asks me if I am leaving when I put on my gloves inside the lounge.
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Old 02-24-2006, 12:59 AM
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Back in my serious AFC days, I never had a clue. I used to think things like, "she's just naturally nice to everyone." Friends could tell a lot better than me. Since I've started reading and paying attention in the field, and have been actively looking, it's amazingly easy. Girls do touch you, they do pick up conversation threads, they do ask about jewelry. Ding, ding, ding. I think it probably gets even easier the more you do this, and you read about mPUAs just counting them as easy as I count sheep. Makes complete sense, now, and it's learnable.
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Old 02-25-2006, 12:24 AM
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I have a question for you guys.
a female friend of mine. (She is very cute, but VERY married, with a little kid......and I really don't think she has interest in me).
Does a lot of stuff to make me THINK she is showing IOIs.
She is a waitress (yes, I do love hired guns, I can't help it..I always have)
and she always plays with my keys and stuff, she always hugs me goodbye, and pouts when I leave, and she knows I work midnights, and I am switching to 3-11s soon, and she keeps asking me when I am switching shifts. She always asks me "How is work going". She punches me in the arm, or hits me in the arm, and walks past me and smiles/winks etc.....
Really is a long story bout her, I used to (and still do to a point) have a crush on her. She is literally the PERFECT woman, personality wise, she is one of the few people on earth, who can make me feel 100x better when I am upset.....
Can y'all help me out? Is she giving me IOIs?
Before you guys say "Well, it is her job to flirt and be nice." I really don't think it is that. I don't always sit in her section, and only see her like once a week, and I don't always eat, or whatever, and anytime I DO try and tip her or whatever, she just gives the $ back or what not....
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Old 02-25-2006, 01:36 AM
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Menace,
Observe how this girl treats other male patrons. Is she just as friendly towards them as she is to you? Even if she is not, what do you intend to do if these are actual IOI's? I only have one word for you in any event: "one-itis."
If you are in a big city, the apparent risks are minimal. If you live in a small town like I do, watch where you step, as rumors and reps spread like wildfire. Good luck, bro.
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I have a question for you guys...Can y'all help me out? Is she giving me IOIs?
Before you guys say "Well, it is her job to flirt and be nice." I really don't think it is that. I don't always sit in her section, and only see her like once a week, and I don't always eat, or whatever, and anytime I DO try and tip her or whatever, she just gives the $ back or what not....
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Old 03-13-2006, 09:15 PM
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She take your cell phone in your hand without warning and she put her phone number!!
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Old 03-15-2006, 03:48 AM
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Another IOI.
She demonstrates value in such a way you can see she is not used to... She is not sure about her wording... She is not very self confident but you can see she is trying (hard?) to "advertise" herself.
This seems obvious but it is not always. Especially with shy girls. They fight some kind of inner conflict between their habits and what they want. So it's not easy to spot IOIs even if they are actually interested.
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:00 AM
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Updated.
I understand what you're saying, Kwan, but it's hard for a newer person to look for that.
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Old 03-23-2006, 12:57 AM
 
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When you make eye contact with her, if she :
Looks to the left or right -
she is avoiding eye contact and doesn't want to engage with you.
Looks straight down or down left/right -
It's an IOI, she can't even look at you because she is attracted.
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