Ok, I'll plan a trip to bring the Vancouver lair guys to Victoria or something or other in late July and we'll see what we can do about the Victoria lair as well.
When I started the Victoria Lair, we had a few guys who were keen. David was great in leading the keen guys, but now that he has moved on (to bigger and better things

) I've found that most of the guys in Victoria just want things handed to them on a silver platter.
uh-uh, this takes work, and the first step is that guys actually have to SHOW UP. Go figure.