Help with Stripper... Please..

[LucidDayDream]

Hello
I am a guy with a girlfriend who lives out of state. I love her dearly but I am not ready for commitment.

I moved awy from her when I went to rehab. I have been clean for 3 years. Anyway, I used to use alcohol and drugs as my social lubricants. Now they're not an option any more. So, I've been trying to learn MM by listning the the audiobook and watching the new show.

Since I've been sober, I've been laid a few times (besides my GF - when we've broken up), but its usually women that come onto me. I am attractive to women, I know that, but its just from my basic looks. I am the classic nice guy. Shy and sensitive. No alpha dog here, but I am working on it.

Anyway, I've hit a few strip bars in the past few years, and not so long ago I went to a place that is rather tame. The chicks dont get too nasty but they do take it all off. Their lap dances are "table dances" and cost 10 bones and the chick just rubs her ass on your dog a bit. Nothing special.

So, I went there once with two guys. I met up with them. My normally shy friend was working some major game on a chick there. I shyly sat down. I immediately saw this Paris Hilton look a like. Now, I know many do not like Paris, but I find her real f*cking hot, and this chick was beyond Paris in hotness. Anyway, she was grinding in this dude when she walked by and my friend flagged her down for me. He said I'd like a dance from her. I found this annoying and very 6th grade... But, She said she'd be back (of course)

When she returned, I ended up getting a dance from her. I realize now that this is a bad move. But, it also was a good time to shoot the shit with her. Because the dances are rather tame, I didn't get very aroused and just mainly talked to her. I found out that she had also been to treatment. I feel that we genuinely hit it off ( but in a MM method sort of way, I may have not been so hot) My nice guy thing has got me laid many times in the past, but.. I didn't neg her or anything (besides asking if she was very sought after since she was so skinny (i said my friends preferred fuller girls)).

Anyway, I really felt we had a bit of a connection. I of course stupidly asked her if she'd ever hang out, like every one else does. So, that was lame, But.. I do feel I am far different than most of the old creeps that hang out there.

My tactic was to be the nice guy and treat her like a good guy that would take care of her. Be the young good looking guy that she can relate to. The relief from all the late night fat slob weirdos.

Anyway, I left with a crush on her. Then, a week later, I returned with my friend. She immediately recognized me and sat by us for a long time, talking about how she did not want to work. She seemed to just really TRULY want to talk to us. She didn't really seem to give a shit about tips. But, then I said I'd give her some business and got a few more "table dances". Again, we just talked. She told me her real name and said that she'd hang out when I asked her. She even seemed to mention her upcoming schedule, and said she'd be available the following week (during the weekdays). Oh - Important --- I told her the first visit (the time before) that I had a GF!! So, she's brought it up a few times.. but then i told her that us hanging out wouldn't be big deal, and that we could just get ice cream. She said she'd get a hold of me. I gave her my website and email address.

I was quite sure she'd contact me. I know, I know... many of you are thinking I am an idiot. But, sometimes I feel a connection and damn, this chick really gave me a connection. I know that is their job and all, but I felt like she was genuinely attracted to me.

Anyway, after the few dances and nice convo, I went and sat by my friend. She asked me if we'd be around for a while. I said we'd be there a bit longer. Mywas quiet and I felt akward that I had just really hit it off with the chick. So, we decided to get out of there.

So I left the place without saying good bye to her. At the time I felt it would be good to do that, but later on I didn't know if it was cool or not.

SO, the following week I PAID my friend to go there and see if she would ask about me. And he said that she was quite busy grinding a man and his chick, but when she walked by him she did ask about me, asking where I was. HE said "At home, hes busy tonight". She said, "Get him out here."

Its now been about 3 weeks. I want to go back. I had plans on doing it alone since I HATE my game around my friend. I joke about MM all the time around him and he doesn't seem to understand or respect it really. I also have a decently hot chick friend that I was thinking about bringing there as a prop.. however I dont know if I'd have skills with her there either.

And I was planning on NOT getting lap dances this round.. but with my friends there, I feel like I wont get that private time that I need to work my skills well.

Any tips? Thanks guys

[DeadEyeDick]

Welcome to the Forum. Unfortunately, you got sucked in. She spun your head around. She's interested in a few guys -- they're all the presidents whose pictures are on your money. Come back to the real world, man.

We can't help you get one special girl/stripper. Good luck if you decide to pursue it.

[LucidDayDream]

Ok thanks man. Anyone else?

[DeadEyeDick]

Originally Posted by LucidDayDream

Ok thanks man. Anyone else?

Lucid, please read the Forum FAQ. Anyone else who did will tell you the same thing. Here's a quote from the FAQ:

"Mystery Method is not about getting that ONE girl. It's about improving your skill with ALL girls. Individual girls are irrelevant while building these skills."

If you have no interest in reading the FAQ, then read other posts in this folder and Jive Turkey Droppings, where, ironically, your thread may wind up.

[LucidDayDream]

Ok thanks bud.

[DeadEyeDick]

Originally Posted by LucidDayDream

Ok thanks bud.

Any time, girlfriend.

[LucidDayDream]

Girlfriend? Perhaps you're in the wrong forum?

You're 43, eh? Is this you by chance?

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[DeadEyeDick]

Lucid, try to pull it together.

I've pulled strippers. I've dated strippers. It's not all that exciting. They are often not the most together human beings you will meet in a lifetime. Some are very skilled at sucking you in. You acknowledged that in your post, but yet you're fantasizing that there is an authentic connection that you want help pursuing.

Maybe I'm wrong, and in the wide whacky world of strip clubs, you found your special girl. God bless you, I hope you two find love, get married, move into a nice house with a picket fence, and have tons of little future exotic dancers. But the odds are against it.

In response to your request for info, I suggested that you're under her spell, then I suggested you read other threads in this folder to see that there is a huge pile of threads by guys who've been in the same situation. Believe it or not, you are not the first guy to become drunk on the aroma of stripper perfume. It's potent stuff.

So do yourself a favor. Take the advice you've already been given. It's free. But it's worth more than the price of a thousand lapdances my friend.

[bart]

Actually, Lucid, I respectfully disagree with Deadeye.

First, with regards to this girl, I don't see that this is a one-itis post. You've basically said "this is what I've done. What next?" That's a reasonable time to ask your brothers for help. Some of us DO have the expertise to help you. The lump sum of your game may be statistical. Each sarge is detailed. Anyway, many of us ARE in this to get the girls we want.

Second, from what you've reported, I think you have a pretty good chance. While I don't consider buying dances good game, it IS possible to pull and date girls you've gotten dances from. I've done it a few times in my AFC days (No I'm not a strip club junky.) I don't think you should get any more, though. The key element is to make a connection to her "real world" side, which you've done. This is actually the hardest part of stripper gaming. I have a special technique for it. You need to amplify on that next time you see her. The beauty of strip clubs is that they're kind of like "brigadoon" in that your sarge can stand still until the next time you show up. For MM, you are in comfort. Continue to broaden the comfort, use comfort kino; I usually stay nonsexual until outside the club, but am tinkering with that now. Continue soft low-level qualification, and intersperse low level attraction material to make sure she stays attracted, and drop lots of time-bridge seeds (and keenly look out for her doing the same--she probably will if you continue to be cool.) Since you met her with your friend, just keep going with him (or your pivot). Not necessary, but It's less creepy. Just moving your chair for a bit of privacy is good enough for isolation. Be patient. Don't make it look like you're going there just to be with her, but don't be getting dances either. Just chill with your bud/pivot. Be patient. Once she suggests or bites on a time bridge, you can move forward.

Once you get her out of the club, it's a regular Day 2. You wouldn't need advice here if you weren't new to the game. Since you are, I'll say something but everyone has a slightly different approach. Be cool. Don't think of this as gaming. Remember to BE A MAN; escalate physically, very gently, starting with comfort kino. Stay playful. Push/pull. Be challenging but lovable. Don't shy from sex talk, as long as it's not about the strip club. (Avoid work talk; keep it real world, not in strip club bizarro world) Make the first kiss great, not a nervous end-of-the-night "Will he/won't he" experience. Just BE A GOOD DATE.

Good luck, report back.

[LucidDayDream]

Bart
Thanks a lot. That is what I wanted. I dont want to marry this chick. Nor do I even know if I want to have sex with her. In fact I'd feel quite bad cheating on my GF. I am just attracted to her and I am just playing around. I just wanted some feedback.

Deadeyedick, I think you took it all too seriously. But I am sorry for being rude to you.

I think I might go and visit her after I watch the next episode of Pick Up Artist. That is next weeks challenge.

Any advice on how to handle it?

I feel like NOT getting dances makes me look like a cheap skate. THey are 10 bucks and I find them good times to just talk. But, I think I will try to do it without getting them.

But I also hear that pervert row (front row) is bad to be at. Do I look like a schmuck going to a strip joint and never getting the dance or the front row?