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Old 07-02-2006, 09:34 PM
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Guys,
This is going to sound crazy... but it is real.
After reading a lot of seduction material, I have very good game from C1 to S3. Mystery has put in a simple format a plan that I can execute.... this stuff works!
I am 38 years old, very social, funny, tall , outgoing, tell great stories (attraction stories), I speak well, look stylish, and have career success. I talk to strangers all the time, can talk on multitudes of levels, and am smart....
The problem is I can not start a simple conversation with a woman I am attracted to and convert to a phone number, next step, bounce, etc, when I approach for the first time. I get tight, nervous, begin to fidget (though I fight the urge after I notice it). I am really not even approaching anymore.
I am using online dating as a crutch to get around the face to face first conversation. BTW when I go on a online 'real' date, the first thing I do is through a neg, do A1 to S3, I bounce, reel-release, use good body language, lead, display the attraction traits, bartender/waitress social proof me, get a special handshake, etc going... I am nearly unstoppable. Of ten or so dates, I have sexual activity with 80% of them. The two I was not attracted to and did not want to escalate in any way.
I see this inability to effectively approach leading to a more long term problem and want to fix it now.
I am recently back on the dating scene and currently separated from my wife of 14 years... the final divorce is about 2 months away... maybe this is unconsciously sabotaging me? Also I really do not have any single friends to go out with, al lof my freinds are married. Whan I go out I am always on my own.
What do I need to do to get my head right for approaching successfully???
NewMan-L
P.S. Thanks Grant for the online knowledge... it is key.
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Old 07-03-2006, 06:25 AM
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|||| you and your 80% f-close....lol
dude, take your time....
Your going thru a divorce with someone you just spent 14 years of your life with...better work on some of that...before you ||||ing implode. Yes..get laid....but work on closure......and whatever anger,guilt,remorse and other emotions you`ve got going on....or buried.
That is a little stressful...whether it be good, bad, or ugly...
First approach nervousness is normal....you`re outta practice...I assume you were`nt approaching on a regualr basis in the last 14 years of your marriage.
So, take it slow...start out with the cute girl at McDonalds...say 'Hi' and 'Thank you' and leave...same at a grocery store...approach and open and leave...no further convo.
Work your way up slowly...otherwise you`re going to be the 80% f-close guy with sweaty palms all the time...
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Old 07-03-2006, 04:09 PM
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Doc is right. Dont rush,take your time man. Its a pitty to see marriage of 14 years to brake up , especially when you have kids, but thats the way it is. Live your life now. She the positive things , what happened...happened and what will be done...will be done.
For number close i have a little present for you, use a line of mine that if you have a good opener its 99% to take the phone.Its called "Be my friend-Number close"
You: Well i enjoyed the conversation with you,was nice to meet you
She: Me, too
You: You seem a good person,maybe you just made a good friend.It will be nice to see you again and continue our conversation.
She: Yes it would be great
You: Write down your number
Go out and have some fun!
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