Q&A Session: Rokker Was Here(Finished) - Page 3 - The Attraction Forums

Enformation · #21 08-15-2007, 12:55 PM

I live in a city which has a huge blend of different cultures, which makes the game a bit more challenging. For instance, it's a pretty well known fact that you can't really neg a polish girl when she's new to the american culture, because she won't understand the sarcasm. How do you adjust your mentality when you are working on an american versus a russian, or perhaps an asian versus an african american?

skld · #22 08-15-2007, 01:08 PM

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I live in a city which has a huge blend of different cultures, which makes the game a bit more challenging. For instance, it's a pretty well known fact that you can't really neg a polish girl when she's new to the american culture, because she won't understand the sarcasm. How do you adjust your mentality when you are working on an american versus a russian, or perhaps an asian versus an african american?

I have the same problem but most of the girls I game (16 and up, especially the younger ones) are not foreign but just... Well... Stupid, with lack of a better word. I feel I can't run game on them because they are... Well... Stupid =-\. Something would pop up in my mind and I'd surpress it because I know she wouldn't understand. After a few of these I decide to make the move and say if something pops up in my mind. I say it and they go "what?" or they react completely wrong. Example:

Me: "Yeh I would be the perfect boyfriend, I'd call you 30 times a day and ask you every 5 mins if you are ok"
She: "But that's just annoying"

There is nothing wrong with my frame or body language, they simply don't get it so I usually try to whore in as much push/pull as is humanly possible which works but has a lower success rate than my normal game...

Rokker · #23 08-15-2007, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Enformation

I live in a city which has a huge blend of different cultures, which makes the game a bit more challenging. For instance, it's a pretty well known fact that you can't really neg a polish girl when she's new to the american culture, because she won't understand the sarcasm. How do you adjust your mentality when you are working on an american versus a russian, or perhaps an asian versus an african american?

I don't adjust my initial game whatsoever. Last time I was in London I pulled 1 canadian girl, 1 french girl, 1 spanish girl and 1 girl from Monte Negro in 5 days time going in with the same mentality: They'll love me and eventually end up in my bed. All girls respond equally to social value, pre-selection and so forth.

That being said, I agree that there are some differences in how you play your mid-game, but that's generally the case with every girl. So the next time you are in a set with a polish girl and she doesn't respond well to negs, well then don't use negs... and calibrate that missed neg and build attraction some other way. Do you see where I'm going here? I don't think you should have a separate "asian game" and a different "american girls game", it should all be calibrated in set.

Ment4ll · #24 08-15-2007, 07:37 PM

Rokker, tips on storytelling while in set?

And how long did it take you to incorporate full on multipal threading into your sets

Rokker · #25 08-16-2007, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ment4ll

Rokker, tips on storytelling while in set?

And how long did it take you to incorporate full on multipal threading into your sets

On storytelling: Make sure you're telling stories that you genuinly want to tell and that you don't tell them just because of the embedded DHVs. Entusiasm is contagious. As I said in another reply it's important that the story takes her on an emotional journey. As guys we tend to put alot of factual details in our stories but it's more important to have emotional details and really live the story when you tell it. I really like Sinn and Futures CD from the interview series on the subject.

On multiple threading: I've always tried to incorporate that, so I've never felt from one moment to another that "oh right now I've got full MT going on", it's been a gradual progression where you introduce better and better threads and cut your own and others threads better. The way to practice it is to start cutting your own threads (eg the opener) start another thread, cut that one and go back to the opener, start a third thread and so forth. Don't be afraid to experiment with that.

Mikado · #26 08-16-2007, 05:46 AM

Do you have any memorable lays? (models, celebrities, porn stars, other)

Rokker · #27 08-16-2007, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikado

Do you have any memorable lays? (models, celebrities, porn stars, other)

I've laid a handful of models but no celeb or porn star. That's definitely the next step...

Ment4ll · #28 08-16-2007, 07:37 AM

Day game v. Night game do you run the same routine stack or do you calibrate your DHV's/routines based on the environment/target? Basically, do you enter coffee shop set with a different routine stack then a club set? Although I'm sure you do I'm just trying to elaborate for myself and be sure.

Licence for Love · #29 08-16-2007, 12:51 PM

How do/did you handle inner game issues?

seldomseen · #30 08-16-2007, 06:28 PM

What's happening man?

First I guess in my experience and I wanted to know if it's yours, would you say a big part of being good is having balls, persistence, a great personality and detachment from the outcome?

And second do you find in your own experience that a big part of this game no matter who's method you follow is won or loss in the qualification and/or compliance stage?