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08-11-2006, 11:15 PM
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| | | Heartwork's Myspace Method All right, I have an injured ankle so I haven’t got out as much as I would like lately. I figured this would be a great time to perfect my online game. I feel I have somewhat done that now and after months of fine-tuning. I am ready to share my new organized method. Some parts may sound familiar cause I have literally tried all the routines for myspace-ing and all the things to say and what not to say. I have taken the good, ripped out the bad, and have thrown in my own ideas developed through months of trial and error. I know there are going to be people out there that disagree with parts of my method but hey, this is what works for me, every time. I am fully open to any and all opinions about this routine. Changes can be made. If you have specific questions or need help with responses feel free to PM me and I will help in any ways I can.
Here it is… Heartwork’s Myspace Method Step one: Find a Target
Say you have a hot friend, turns out she has hot friends in her top 8. Pick the hottest and game her using this routine. Be sure not to use it again on anyone else in her top 8 without changing the routine or your game could leak and they will be on to you. ***The good thing about this routine is that you can change all the lines to how you feel best fits you, just take this method as somewhat of a “guideline�*** Step two: Open to the Target
First off do not send her a friend invite yet, she will either do it or you can do it once she responds to your opener.
I have tried just about every online opener out there and I find that this one works the best: Subject: Hey you know what…
Body: I was reading your profile, and I saw that you like
sparkles, glitter, pink nail polish, and shopping.
Ya know what? Me too!!! Let's hang out.
The most common response to get is “haha sounds good : )� so if you don’t know what to expect using that opener, that’s what you can plan for. ***I personally find the subjects don’t really matter all that much. I don’t care if she gets a million a day. She likes the reassurance of chumps calling her hot, she will never message them back but she will open every message looking for that “hey baby your so fine.� That’s why myspace could better be known as “||||space� It’s filled with chumps and for us PUA, its like shooting fish in a barrel. Oh yeah and you have to change the opener according to her profile, works best on girly girls. *** Step 3: Getting her to talk (A,B,C routine)
Step three just happens to be a routine involving three different questions that create somewhat meaningful conversation. Although I will provide example questions I do highly suggest you find your own, once again this method is set up so you can do so. A) At this point she has responded to your opener, and either has or hasn’t sent you a myspace friend invite, it doesn’t really matter.
First you should throw in a small neg. I usually accuse them of being some kind of crazy myspace killer. Then mention how you would like to become better friends before you meet up. Then initiate the first question. It doesn’t really matter what it is, it’s meant to be a meaningless, just make it a question she can respond to and add “how about you?� It can be anything, like what’s your favorite color, favorite animal, favorite flower. I use those because lots of sites with symbolism can be found that represents colors, animals and flowers, you can turn it into a nice cold read in your next response. Example after opener (already sent me a friend invite) ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
haha yeah sounds good
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
Well, you know, before we even think of hanging out we should probably become better friends, I mean I got to make sure you’re not some crazy 55 year old man that kidnaps people on myspace ; ). I appreciate you sending me a friend invite but without communication, this friendship is going nowhere, and that would be a real shame, so here it goes…
What’s your all-time favorite animal?
Just wait till you here mine! End of example ***Notice I used a smiley face while negging, use those and “haha’s� they are your friends and the only way to express emotions online. Also notice how I add, “Just wait till you here mine!� this forces her to say my favorite animal is _____ what’s yours? *** B) Once she gives her answer to your question from A, sound interested like you are into it to, she will ask you the same question in return so have a good short story to follow it up, nothing to long though. If you used my suggested questions you can go to this web site ( http://members.tripod.com/~onespiritx/magick18.htm) to help you develop a cold reading that complies with her answer. Once you have done that add a future projecting question to the bottom of the message, there are tons out there; they are all great so change it up a little. Find which one you like best. Example ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Haha = )
my favorite animal is a cat.
what is yours per chance?
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
haha nice, I love cats. You're already like my best friend in the world! I heard people that like cats tend to be mysterious just like cats. And although they may put off a weak image they can be rather independent and stand up for themselves when forced. The only problem is I bet you get easily distracted.
My favorite animal is... dum dum dummmm... the lion. (ironically its also a kind of cat haha) I know it's a common choice, but I really think lions live sweet lives. They're the king of the jungle, they're really strong and ferocious, and they just chill all day being lazy. I think they're great. Plus they can do that crazy roar which is VERY loud. I'm intimidated whenever I watch a movie produced by MGM, because of the lion.
Anyway, Here’s the next question, When we go on a road trip, where are we going and why? End of example ***I totally ripped off that lion story off from a field report by Luff, thanks man it works wonders. Also if I were to do this again I would shorten the message up a little bit, it just happens to be that in this example I left a longer response, but she later told me she loved how I left good full responses instead of short stupid lines like most guys, so I guess sometimes bigger really is better.*** C) While you are waiting for a response, go off and neg her best picture. Once she gets back to you tell her about how her response to your future projection is to similar to something you would say and how it will never work out. Make it sound like you guys have been together before. Keep things funny and interesting. The last question you ask should be a question that makes her tell a story. Don’t worry about the importance of the story, it’s irrelevant to the next step. Also let her know if she wants to keep talking to you she’s gonna have to do a better job of keeping the conversation up or your gonna loose interest. Example ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
haha =) OMFG I DO HAVE LIKE THE WORST ADD, JUST LIKE A CAT! OMG
neways, were goin on a road trip! NICE = ) lol
we should def go to vegas to win lots of money, and we can go see blue man group! then we can get a quickie marriage!!! Hehe
x x x x
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
Ha! I love blue man group, were way to similar for a road trip, the car ride would be awful, we would just agree on everything and conversation would be lame and we would end up bitter, and you would pressure me into gambling all my money away. Clearly your rushing me into a marriage I’m not ready for and with my new gambling problem and your ADD you would end up running off with the best looking Elvis impersonator you could find. Hopefully there are quickie divorces across the street from the chapel, quickest marriage ever!
At least we gave it a shot : )
Okay I’m getting sick of asking you all these questions, your asking the next one!!! So here is my last one…
What is the most exiting thing you have done this summer? End of Example *** I did have a good tip for C but I cant think of it, anyone else know some good future projection questions, I think they are great, makes the girl imagine hanging out with you and having a ton of fun.*** Step 4: Getting her SN
Okay this is the easiest step but you have to be careful cause IM can |||| with your game, only use it when needed unless you are damn good at keeping an IM conversation without giving away to much personal info or being boring. Your done with the question game for now, don’t drag it onto AIM. Some people think you should not use AIM at all but if you want to GARENTEE that you get the number than I highly suggest it! Once she gets back to you with some exciting story just disregard it if you want, some story about how she bruised her stomach water tubing or got drunk with her girlfriend’s really doesn’t matter at this point. You can give her a small neg about the story, just don’t get to into it or type back an exciting story, just let her know you don’t have enough time to wait for messages and ask if she has a screen name. She will give you it, if she already has it in her profile just IM her and let her know you got tired of sending messages via myspace. Have a small conversation with her then sign off. Example ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Ajahahha your soo funny : )
Oh god well lets see, I was at the mall with my girlfriend lucy and we were in victorias secret and I look over and I realized she was puttting one of those new IPEX bras into her purse……that bitch was trying to steal them!!! Hehe then she grabbed me and was like RUNN and we ran out the door and the alarms went off!!!! I almost peed my pants lolz then we had to spend the whole day in the mall security center yeah sorry someof my friends are crazt, imnot a thief thou lol
So whats the crazzzziest thing you have done?? ; )
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
…you got caught stealing panties, wow you guys are losers : )
I’m getting tired of this myspace shit, I prefer my messages to be more “instant�, you got a screen name?
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Yuppers! It’s XoiamGoingToBangHeartworkButIDontKnowItYetXO
(that’s obviously not her sn, don’t try Iming it haha)
AIM CONVO A FEW MINS LATER (went something like this)
Me: hey you
HB: heyy!
Me: I gotta go soon cause I got work early tomorrow, I’m just seeing what’s up
HB: aw nmu?
Bla bla bla
Me: Alright I gotta go now
HB: alright nice talkin to ya! Cya later End of Example ***This is not necessary, but I like to do it when I want to guarantee everything goes smoothly. I will run my game on her later at night so by the time I get her screen name its really late. This way I just talk to her shortly and leave, she will be thinking about me long after I leave cause its late and not much is going on if she’s at her comp this late. It doesn’t even have to be that late but once you sign off on her I recommend, but not necessary, that you wait till the next day to talk to her, this is when you get the number. Oh and by the way you can get her screen name WHENEVER you want, but I don’t really like IM’s cause it can turn you into that lame IM buddy and that becomes pathetic annoying online buddy that will have her ignoring your “hey.� To get a girls screen name you don’t even have to open if that’s all your really want, just say “Hey, you seemed like a cool person but I hate talking through myspace, what’s your screen name?� But that’s pretty AFC. Play the myspace game, not the IM game, unless you like awkward pauses filled with meaningless haha’s and yea’s or even dun dun dun….brb’s!*** Step 5: Getting her number
Here is the climax of your online gaming, you get the number then its smooth sailing till the meet up as long as you are smart. If you followed my method and stuck to its guidelines then you are a couple of IM’s away from a # close. If you followed my advice about waiting till the next day to talk to her then so far you should have only talked on myspace and had a short convo on AIM. (Just a little recap) IM her again and strike up a nice conversation, it doesn’t even really have to be that good, just be talking. Then half way through, say alright well I don’t have time to sit at the comp all day but if you give me your number we can continue this lovely conversation later. She will give you the number. I don’t need to provide an example, I basically just told you word to word what to do. ***I have compared getting numbers on AIM to getting numbers on myspace, Literally EVERY time I have asked for a number on AIM I have gotten it, but I’d say only about half the time I have gotten them through a message on myspace. I have a whole collection of idea’s of why it happens to be this way, but point is, use IM to get the numbers, then you can just stick to phone and email game.*** Step 6: “Calling to say what’s up�
People have all different views on calling girls, some say only do it to plan a meet up and that calling a girl just for the hell of it is AFCish. She gave you her number, she wants you to call, doesn’t matter what the circumstance may be, she wants you to call! For a girl to agree to meeting up with someone they have met online they need to feel safe and familiar with you, a friendly phone call does just that. So give her a call, be sure to put a time constraint on right from the start and have a good conversation. Don’t let things get awkward and don’t let her leave before you do. Tell her about fun places and fun times you have had and how fun it would have been if she were there. Make her visualize hanging out with you, make sure she knows hanging out with you will lead to a good time. You can even say that you will be too much for her to handle and won’t be able to keep up with the crazy things you do when you’re having fun. Be a party! Then leave, say you have to go and hang up. She will notice that you took those good feelings she was having just a minuet ago away with you when you hung up. ***Your phone call is kind of your first impression, read David D’s articles on “Voice Tones� Develop a calm and suave voice. And BE INTERESTING!*** Step 7: Back to myspace/planning out the meet up.
Like I said before try to avoid the IM convos, if she IM’s you then talk for a bit, she IM’s you later that day or the next, ignore it, she will be all the more surprised and happy to see your inviting her to hang out. Leave her a myspace message letting her know you are planning on going to _______ to do _______. Do not put a time and date on yet, first just see if she’s interested. Then once she says yes tell her when you were thinking of doing it and give her some time frame but tell her you have to go and you will call her with further details later. Example ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heartwork
Hey you, I’m really want to find a time to go see that new Will Ferral movie, you should come!
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Ah that movie looks soo effin funny!! I really want see it too, how’s this weekend sound???
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Heatwork
I think I’m free for most of it, ill call you with further details
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: HB
Sounds good! : )
Xoxox End of Example *** The reason I don’t mention a time and date right away is to make sure she’s not busy, if I said I want to go see the new Will Ferral movie on Thursday afternoon and she said she cant make it for some reason or another and she doesn’t tell me another time then I may come off as needy and seem like I have nothing better to do if I ask again with a different time.*** (oh and for all the kids wondering at home, this is a real convo, the girl is real and she is a HB 9.5, her boobs could be a tad bigger but that’s it. Anyway, we did meet up and see the movie, and no I do not know how it ends, I was “preoccupied� through the whole second half ; ) I have a date with one of her friends next week, I used the same format on her, whole new set of questions, hopefully they don’t catch on hehe. I think I’m starting to get greedy) Step 8: DON’T |||| UP
I have seen people blow it here so listen! You set up a date, you still got days in between, avoid AIM. Stick to phone and email, if she’s been a cooperative girl, give her a myspace comment or two make sure they are all good and creative. And when you first meet in person SHOW SOME ||||ING ENTHUSIASIM, give her a hug right away, you got a lot of kino to make up for if you don’t you are in for an awkward evening, and If I ever hear you start the conversation with…�soo� (and look around awkwardly) I will find you and smack you, you’re better than that, you have days to prepare for the meet up, online game is cake, you still need a sharp IRL game if you plan on getting with her, the way I see it, the game has just begun.
I really hope this helps everyone out, I look forward to all your feedback! Love,
Heartwork
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08-12-2006, 09:54 PM
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| | | okay lets see....supreme, i ussually skip over a girl with a Private Myspace, but sometimes shes smoking hot so adjustments must be made. send her a friend invite and once she accepts you can wait a little while and just use the opener. I have been experimenting with this, I feel it could be a little better but so far test results have been good, Incase shes Private
Wow, im glad you finnally decided to open up to me haha, you look like someone that can have a good time and is open to meeting people but yet you keep a private profile, whats the deal?
She will probley say its to keep the crazy people out the you can say somthing like, well you added me, I guess you dont find me that crazy, then you can go into the whole friendship communication thing.
I will experiment with this more and let you know if i come up with somthing better.
And now for Heist's question
things seem to be going great, good work, leave her a comment or somthing, make it so she will leave on back. But dont say "comment back" or anything like that
Say somthing like, pureity huh, I bet you got a cell phone? your responce rate is as slow as snail and i dont have time to sit around and wait for your cute, smartass remarks  so just give me your number and we can continue this lovely conversation later.
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08-30-2006, 07:52 PM
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| | | I love seeing people like travis giving good myspace advice...you have come along way bro! anyways...
Okay RRoundtree lets break this down a little bit.
If you really want to try to get a responce back this is what I suggest (I know there are people that strongly think you should wait like two weeks then re-game, but by then I have forgotten about the person and she has forgotten about me) so here is two solid lines I have came across.
1) That's 2 messages I sent that you didn't respond to....that's it we're breaking up...I want you to drop off my CD's and I want custody of the dog I bought you for your birthday....I've grown attached to the little guy!! :-)
2) What what?! your not trying to play hard to get with me already now are you, that may work with the other guys your after but i personally dont have the attention span for that shit : )
She may not have responded cause your last message was a little off beat. you question her about her taste in music and movies but thats not going to make her want to qualify, you are better off saying somthin like I cant belive you like this band and that movie..we are way to much alike.....and so on. But then you randomly through in "Can you cook" that just gonna make her go WTF because there is no humor to it, its just random, thats why in my method it is combined with a future projection question.
Also that whole friend invite line seemed a little out of place, it was just right in the middle of the convo, if she had just sent you the friend invite then thats cool but its best to you use that line real early on, bassically what I want to get at is you are trying toooo many lines in one message, space it out, make her get used to talking to you and have her looking forward to seeing the "New Message" alert.
Hope this was of some help
Love,
Heartwork
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10-31-2006, 01:07 PM
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| | | I used to think your profile wasnet a big deal, I may have even wrote it in the method that it isent. Well It IS A BIG DEAL. If your profile is shit..she is not going to respond. Check and make sure you have the following
1) At least 5 good DHV pictures
2) An interesting about me section
3) Colorful and interesting profile with music
4) Any other neat things like games or video's
5) and most importantly!!! SOCIAL PROOF. You need to have hot girls commenting you all the time or at least friends commenting you. Have more than a top 8, add lots of people and chat with them using your comment board. If you comment them, they will comment you back. I dont suggest doing myspace game till you have at least 100-200 friends on myspace.
Think about it like this your profile is bassically all of A2.
With a good profile you can open any girl on myspace and get a responce...first thing she is going to do is judge you on your pictures and look at your profile to make sure your not sketchy
There you go...fix your pro and see the difference
Love,
Heartwork
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11-13-2006, 02:18 PM
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| | | Okay im gonna have to make a thread about construction a myspace profile but until then here is a PM i sent to someone on MM looking for help, trust me if you have a good profile she will write back Quote: |
Originally Posted by Heartwork Social proof is the most important part. Have DHV pictures of you partying and doing other fun things. Really all of A2 is your profile.
Heres a little check list
[ ] Have at least 150 friends and a large amount of comments, preferably from girls.
[ ] Have at least a top 16 with at least half the girls being very hot (no myspace models though)
[ ] Have at least 6 DHV pictures, put them on hot or not.com to find out which ones are hotter than others, after about 100 ratings you will have an idea
[ ] Have a thourough General Intrest section with lots of movie details and music and so on
[ ] Have a good profile song
[ ] Make a big about me section and dont be afraid to sound ||||y
[ ] Make your who you want to meet section interesting, sound like you are picky but dont make it seem like a personal add
[ ] Be active, comment people and they will comment you
[ ] No shirtless flexing pictures, trust me they are lame
[ ] Slide inside jokes in your about me section that make you seem adventuriose so a girl may ask about the story behind it...example being "climbing to the hollywood sign with jill and sarah"
[ ] Dont have perverty childish things on your myspace
[ ] Comment boxes are cool, makes it seem like you get alot of comments and people can leave them easier, go get one, also make sure you have matching boarders and scroll bars...make your profile "fashionable"
Thats all i can think of for now...social proof is the most important part though so above all else, have that.
Love,
Heartwork |
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12-27-2006, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bert That's really impressive. Could you break down your day 2 strategy a bit? Venues, bounces, topics, kino...whatever you think contributes to your conversion rate?
Bert | Sure. I should rephrase first... I had a quite a few LJBF experiences because of lack of kino. Figuring out kino was a big hurdle for me and I have MM to thank for that. Now I rock at it. If you include my LJBF experiences into those numbers they would look more like 23/30. Kino kills LJBF.
But back to day 2's...
The only place I don't like to go to for day 2's is the movies, and I've made that work too.
The first thing I do is have something interesting to talk about right off the bat. The last thing you want is to be sitting there when you meet up going..."so....," so always have something interesting ready to talk about.
This next part is something I see a lot of my friends have trouble with, and I hav a really hard time explaining it.
HAVE FUN! You really have to not give a |||| and just have fun. She will want to join you in that mindset.
If I do a day two at the beach (I only like the beach at night), I will walk in the sand, pick up seashells, investigate odd things... whatever interest ME at the given time... and I give them the cahnce to include themselves. Nobody wants to stand there and look stupid... so of course she will join you. If she doesn't, then I tool her for it (Hmph... I thought you were fun).
It doesn't matter where you go.. what matters is that YOU have fun and give her the opportunity to have fun with you. If she refuses to have fun then thats her fault, not yours.
You should chill on the c/f. I'm not saying don't use it... just tone it down. The one time I didn't close was because I used way to much c/f and she blew me out with LMR because she "didn't trust me." She looked damn good naked too... but thats a different story.
Topics of discussion: I ask the ussual questions that you can't ask in the Attraction Phase. What do you do, where are you from...blah blah blah. The key here is to have your own interesting responses to the questions you ask. I've led a very interesting life... so thats easy for me. Don't ask a question if you don't have a good answer to it ready to go.
ALWAYS BE ESCALATING KINO. Ultimate goal should be a makeout asap. After a makeout you should get her thinking about going further but never let her. Turn the topic towards sex whenever possible... but always be cutting kino off before it gets there. I'm really balsy with this stuff. I will whisper crazy shit into there ear that I want to do with them during makeout sessions... then say "but I don't know you well enough," and pull away. Drives em nuts.
Not sure what else to say... that pretty much sums up everything I do.
Hope it helps.
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12-27-2006, 03:17 PM
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| | | "are you going for the !close at the end of the day2, or is that usually on a day 3?"
I have another post I want to make about closing in general (maybe after I close this myspace girl out), but for now I'll just try to answer the question.
Try to follow the 7 hour rule.
"are you using bounces on your day 2's? I never really have 'til now, just straight-up vanilla coffeedates, and I really need to start doing something more interesting. (I love the suggestion to just do what I want -- makes all the sense in the world. The coffeedates are usually pretty ok for me, but feel a little like a business meeting. There's got to be a better way.)"
I'm there to have fun damnit.
Would you sit at a coffee house ALL NIGHT? |||| that. Drink your coffee, talk about a few things and go do something (ANYTHING) else.
If you had never been in your city before and you had seven hours to kill (plus travel time) what would you do? Go do that.
Sometimes that might be see a movie (if there is one you want to see).
Sometimes there may be a band you really like playing.
Sometimes it may be your in the mood for italian food.
You get the idea.
Now... the exception to that would be if you WERE HAVING AN EXCEPTIONALLY GOOD TIME at coffee. If so... then don't ruin it.
There are two guages I use for day 2's to let me know how I'm doing
1. Kino.
2. How much fun am I having.
If your not having fun but your getting kino then it will die as soon as she gets bored (but kino IS FUN so thats a self correcting problem).
if your not having fun where your at...BOUNCE...ANYWHERE ELSE!
If your having fun but not getting kino, you are heading towards the LJBF zone.
Again, hope that helps.
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04-18-2007, 07:11 AM
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| | | First post on the forums! A 112 day old thread that I feel needs more attention 
As Heartwork has mentioned, Myspace literally is an untapped resource when it comes to meeting absolute stunners!
I have set things that I will always do in certain Myspace situations. Here are a few that rarely fail. If they do fail it's most likely that the chick sucks arse and has no sense of humour to begin with (not the type of chick you'd want to hang out with anyway)
Here's one example for ifshe friend requests me: I'll add her straight away and then comment her with Here's trouble. What do YOU want brat? They ALWAYS respond. Here's a real life example. She writes back: well, well, well... look who it is!
YOU!
just wanted to say thank-you for that sweet, kind, caring and considerate message you left me... hmmm. haha you little shithead!
what's on for this week little man!?
x
She tries to put me back in my place by calling me "little man" but it's just a test. She wants to see if I apologise.
I reply with I know, it's hard being such a charmer. I tend to win over too many women's hearts. You're probably writing me a love letter as I type 
I've had a big problem with stalkers lately so I'm not sure whether I should tell you what I'm up to this week. You'll follow me, take photos etc. and next thing you know
the police will rock up on your doorstep with a restraining order!
She writes back: you got me...
i don't know what to say? i guess now maybe we can overcome this, i mean? i've admitted to my addiction; YOU... so? i guess that is the first step on the road to recovery, right?
i do hope you can ignore the cameras i have installed in your house...
muuuuhahahah!
i win!
x
It's clearly on, so I write a message to her (not a public comment) which says: Cameras now? The stalking problem has become a serious issue. Please provide a number I can contact you on for further discussion.
Rhys
She replies with: that was the SMOOTHEST call i've ever heard!
wow, nice work!
0413 XXX XXX
just at work, do you have msn? we can discuss there? haha
x
I ||||en hate MSN when it coems to meeting women so I do not use it.
These were real posts. That's just one example. Let me know if you'd like more 
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05-05-2007, 08:41 PM
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| | | Heartwork, nice post. I would like to adress some issues first.
Something I have a problem with is that you seem to wait to long to get that number. Another thing I noticed is that you said the subject line doesn't matter. I completely disagree with both of these.
The subject line is extremely important. Like you said, she gets many messages a day, and trust me...she does not read them all. After a while she knows what they will say, "oh baby, you're so sexy". You have to use a subject line that will make her want to open the message instantly. My favorite?
"Someone is using your pictures"
lmao...it works wonders!~ After that they would tell me how I scared them and they will then reply to the rest of my first message. The first message should be all about showing that 1) you read their profile by talking briefly about something in the profile and 2)you are not like the other loser guys by giving yourself value. You do this by throwing in statements in there like "so if you'd like to make friends, you know what to do...if not, its okay...not all girls can handle this. ;-) ) haha...I am laughing right now, because its gold...alot will respond with "I can handle it!"
Now on to the most important part. After you get her to respond to that message, you send her another one. In this one, you continue from whatever seeds she planted in her response to you or lightly tease her about anything in her profile.
After she responds to that message, your third message should NOT ask for the number, but kind of demand it. Something like "well, you seem alright...hopefully you're not a stalker, LET'S EXCHANGE NUMBERS and I'll give you a call...unless your scared, lol"
Notice how I said "LET'S EXCHANGE" instead of "how about we exchange...." or "do you want to exchange.." I made it sound natural...as if I expect it.
Get her number and call her two days later. If she doesn't give it to you, try it again after a few more messages or just move on.
No time to waste on the internet, you'll just become another message she forgets about later on. And if you can avoid it...absolutely, NO AIM. | 
05-17-2007, 11:39 AM
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| | | Some things have changed since I originally wrote the post, acctually alot has, but on the topic at hand, with myspace now being flooded by spammers, your subject does matter
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And "haha you know what..."
I like the "someone has stole your pictures" line
However, if you are gaming a girl you MET THROUGH MYSPACE, you need to be carful when going for the number, not all girls are on myspace to meet guys, or anyone.
That is why I will move to instant messenger to get the number.
I dont know what it is but it really just triples your chances of getting it
Also I like having access to her instant messenger and the number.
Say she starts to flake and is being less responsive on calls, i can reboost that with some hard core ||||y funny and some other things like The Questions Game (an online gem).
Do not dismiss AIM.
People say to avoid it, if you can ||||ing work it then do it.
Infact sometimes I will even move my sets in real life to AIM, it is a powerful tool when used CORRECTLY.
Try the Questions Game onlines, i'll be damned if you guys dont start talking about sexual fanticys half way through the game.
In this day and age, esspecially the younger generation, people are being socialized behind their computers, why do you think girls are always on AIM, they like talking on it, it's easy.
Dismissing AIM is like saying no to yet another tool at your disposal.
P.S
Here are some random notes I gave to someone doing my method today:
I can't stress that enough.
Turn everything she says into qualification.
HB: Do I know you?
You: I dont think you have had the pleasure of meeting me yet, which kinda scares me now that i think about it, how do i know you not some like 55 year old myspace stalker, how about you tell me three interesting things about yourself and maybe i'll still consider talking to you.
:P
My method was to get guys in the habbit of qulification online by using silly things at first and making them meaningful.
Now a days I'll just ask for three interesting things right off the bat, however sometimes a girl will throw a shit test right back at you, just respond by asking for more qualification.
your myspace pro plays a big role in myspace game, first thing a girl does on myspace is read your message, checks your pics and looks at your pro.
I hope you are getting social proof and have some decent pictures up.
Your profile is most of A2, that is why I tell people to move into qualification after the online opener.
Oh and P.S. Asking for a female opinion online lowers your value and is just a waist of time, who are you trying to disarm?
Why would a high value guy seek an opinion from a girl he does not know over the internet, a high value guy would just ask the girl he is with in real life.
Going semi direct or situational is ussually the best opener online.
All for now,
Love,
Heartwork
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