19, vcard, and hopeless?

[Sclass]

I am a 19 yr old with a vcard that I cant seem to get rid of. Its not like I havent had the chance to have sex but everytime I get close there is always some reason why I cant, whether she's on her period or she doesnt know me well enough or any other reason. Its not like I'm a bad looking guy at all and I've been complemented on my looks quite often. which is precisely why I am so distraught about my situation. I can almost always kiss close a girl but never farther.

my main problem is HB#1, she is everything I want and maybe has lured me into one-its but I dont care I want this girl more than others. she has expressed many times to my friend that she wanted to hookup with me if she wasnt with her bf; however I went to her dorm two weeks ago, we hungout and did what I could game wise, then we went out that night and later went back to her dorm room and fell asleep, I tried to make some moves but everything I did was repelled, they were subtle moves because I dont want to ruin our relationship (because I do value her as a friend), and whats even worse that I didnt even mention was that we slept in the same bed and NOTHING happened. I'm just a fustrated chump beginner at all this but as you can see I need some help. if anyone wants me to go into more detail id be happy to for some help

[el demonio]

Don't feel so bad. I did the same thing three months ago. The girl came over and I was fucking nervous. I had the chance to kiss her three or four times and I chickened out each time. I'm usually pretty good at escalation, but we all have our bad days. We ended up under the covers in my bed, and nothing more. I was so pissed off I couldn't even sleep so I just smoked cigarettes all night.

Boyfriend destroyer patterns work alright, but they take practice, and I think they come off as weird. You could try some more direct game. If you've read 'the art of seduction' you could adapt the "Rake" persona. Tell her you can't control yourself; that you're madly in love with her.

Quoted from 'the art of seduction':
A woman never quite feels desired and appreciated enough. She wants attention, but a man is too often
distracted and unresponsive. The Rake is a great female fantasy
figure—when he desires a woman, brief though that moment may be,
he will go to the ends of the earth for her. He may be disloyal, dishonest,
and amoral, but that only adds to his appeal. Unlike the normal, cautious
male, the Rake is delightfully unrestrained, a slave to his love of women.
There is the added lure of his reputation: so many women have succumbed
to him, there has to be a reason. Words are a woman's weakness,
and the Rake is a master of seductive language. Stir a
woman's repressed longings by adapting the Rake's
mix of danger and pleasure.


So much of my advice on dating is rehashed from books. I should be more original.

[napjohn8]

hey i was in that position too when i was 18. Honestly you cant let it affect your outcome. It sounds that your running low on confidence. The best way is to open sets again and set some goals for the next few months so you can start off fresh and forget about the loses.

[NumbaOneDesi]

Dude, 18 and 19 arent that old. Rela. If you're like 25 and cant get laid, yeah, that's bad.

[Lucretius]

Sclass, I just lost mine earlier this week, and I'm 20. You're fine bro. Plus, it really is meaningless, from the bottom of my heart. I know exactly how you feel, and once you do the deed you'll know exactly how I feel now — pissed off that I had built up sex into some magical thing when it's not (I ended up not even liking it.)

But then again, I know about your one-itis feelings too. Basically, and again this ties into the whole 'I am a virgin mentality'; the pussy is inevitably going to be put on the pedestal. So, you act careful as shit because you don't want to "mess it all up" with her. You are thinking that, if you screw up at all, you won't have sex with her, and since SEX is the ultimate important goal here right now for you, that's what you focus on.

My real suggestion would just be to have sex with SOMEONE (preferably a moderately-to-very attractive female) and just get this out of your system. You don't know how much damn relief I felt at finally having sex, even though it was NOT ANYTHING like I had expected. But now, I don't even want to have sex anymore! It's great! I feel a lot freer talking to women now that I don't have this anxious goal of getting into their pants anymore. Naturally, I still want to get physical with them, but I could really care less right now if I ever had sex again.

[wakeboardr]

It doesn't matter

[GAT0R]

Might not even wanna pursue her anymore if you slept in her bed with her and didnt fuck.

[Circe]

I'm with Lucretius. Quit fussing about the sex. There's a lot more to seduction than just getting into bed with someone. "It's the journey not the destination" or some cliche like that. If you MUST have sex, then do it with someone you're less involved with... but personally, I'd just quit worrying about it. If it happens, it happens, and if it doesn't, big whoop. It will eventually, so let it go.

I know, easier said than done...

[xxdbxx]

"Hey, I've been thinking, do you wanna have sex?"
Do this please and tell me what happens.

[Prolific Idler]

The best way to get rid of that one itis is to simply go and get yourself a hot chick...

and about your vcard problem.... its quite simple.. the more you worry about it the more your going to fuzz up about it. I lost mine the moment i simply DIDNT care i still had my vcard...

trust me.. what lucretius said cant be stated better... dont make sex like this godlike thing... once you get laid you will realise that its FUN however its NOT the best thing out there...

so in short: go live your live, dont worry about the sex, the sex will come to you.

simple.