Creation's Newbie Mission

[Creation]

Okay, it's been a long time coming. So firstly, a little background. I've been in the community for a couple months now but could never sarge before because I live in a small town where everyone knows everyone. So I took this time to read "The Game" and various other PU works that I could use.
BUT, now that magical day has come and I am at COLLEGE(yeah baby ). HB's as far as the eye can see.
NEWBIE MISSION DAY 1:
First, let me say that I admire ANYONE who has the balls to cold approach here(which is pretty much everyone) cuz it's fuckin HARD. I've read tons of FR's on here and since I've never cold approached before I assumed it wouldn't be that rough. Boy was I wrong.
First night out, I went to a club solo because I didn't know anyone yet. As soon as I walked in I saw a mixed 4 set, so as I started walking up to them ready to give them the bi-girl opener, it kicked in...Approach Anxiety...and it hit HARD. I've never felt anything like it, I was totally fucking frozen, I had NO IDEA I would feel this way. Anyways same thing happened throughout the night and I never got the balls to make an approach, so I left.
NEWBIE MISSION DAY 2:
Today I knew I had to make up for last night and since I knew what to expect this time, I felt I was ready. First approach happened as I was walking down the street in town. An HB7 was walking towards me.
Creation: Hey are you from around here?
HB7: Yeah...
Creation: Cool I'm gonna borrow you for a second...I need an opinion on something
HB7: Cool, whatsup
Creation: I'm looking for some places to party, what's the best clubs to go to around here?
HB7: bla bla bla...
Creation: Cool thanks but get this, I asked this dude that EXACT same question last night and he told me to go to (xxxxx), so I went and it turns out it as a GAY BAR. I was sorta weirded out but I stayed for a while because guys kept buying me drinks...
HB7: (giggle giggle)...bla bla bla
Then we fluff some more and she says that she has to go so I leave. No close, and I'm pretty sure no attraction, but hey my FIRST SET!!!whoopdefuckindoo!!!
Anyway, I continued to walk around town and opened up 3 more sets the exact same way, with the exact same results. I just couldn't seem to progress from the opener and eventually people got bored, any suggestions?
Lessons Learned:
1. Reading and learning about pickup is MUCH different from doing it.
2. I CAN approach.
3. That's pretty much it.

[Galeon]

Hey Creation,
I am starting out just like you. For me I have broken down my goals into small little achievable chunks and I am currently working only on approach until there's no more discomfort in me approaching HBs. I don't care how long I can stretch the conversation and whether I am DHVing or creating rapport or what not. I have no idea what to say to girls either at the moment but that will be my next goal. As soon as I feel like I am running out of things to say, I will eject. If I were you in a college where I know I will bump into her again, I'll just go, "hey I got to go, what's your name? Maybe I'll see you around."
My suggestion is not try to do too much all at once and just focus on one thing at a time, anything else you can throw in is gravy, also, be the first one to leave before the convo gets bored, that way when you see her again things will still be fresh between you 2.

[Gamble]

Originally Posted by Creation

Okay, it's been a long time coming. So firstly, a little background. I've been in the community for a couple months now but could never sarge before because I live in a small town where everyone knows everyone. So I took this time to read "The Game" and various other PU works that I could use.

easiest trap to fall into :

Originally Posted by Creation

BUT, now that magical day has come and I am at COLLEGE(yeah baby ). HB's as far as the eye can see.
NEWBIE MISSION DAY 1:
First, let me say that I admire ANYONE who has the balls to cold approach here(which is pretty much everyone) cuz it's fuckin HARD. I've read tons of FR's on here and since I've never cold approached before I assumed it wouldn't be that rough. Boy was I wrong.
First night out, I went to a club solo because I didn't know anyone yet. As soon as I walked in I saw a mixed 4 set, so as I started walking up to them ready to give them the bi-girl opener, it kicked in...Approach Anxiety...and it hit HARD. I've never felt anything like it, I was totally fucking frozen, I had NO IDEA I would feel this way. Anyways same thing happened throughout the night and I never got the balls to make an approach, so I left.

learn from it and use it, don't dwell on it though.

Originally Posted by Creation

NEWBIE MISSION DAY 2:
Today I knew I had to make up for last night and since I knew what to expect this time, I felt I was ready. First approach happened as I was walking down the street in town. An HB7 was walking towards me.
Creation: Hey are you from around here?
HB7: Yeah...
Creation: Cool I'm gonna borrow you for a second...I need an opinion on something
HB7: Cool, whatsup
Creation: I'm looking for some places to party, what's the best clubs to go to around here?
HB7: bla bla bla...
Creation: Cool thanks but get this, I asked this dude that EXACT same question last night and he told me to go to (xxxxx), so I went and it turns out it as a GAY BAR. I was sorta weirded out but I stayed for a while because guys kept buying me drinks...
HB7: (giggle giggle)...bla bla bla
Then we fluff some more and she says that she has to go so I leave. No close, and I'm pretty sure no attraction, but hey my FIRST SET!!!whoopdefuckindoo!!!
Anyway, I continued to walk around town and opened up 3 more sets the exact same way, with the exact same results. I just couldn't seem to progress from the opener and eventually people got bored, any suggestions?

I suggest getting a canned routine stack. 2 openers, some A2 material - DHV stories, A3 some qualifiers, negs, etc.
I suggest reading this thread also. How do I learn Seduction? Almost any questions you have about the newbie mission will be answered in that.

Originally Posted by Creation

Lessons Learned:
1. Reading and learning about pickup is MUCH different from doing it.
2. I CAN approach.
3. That's pretty much it.

I watch professional sports a bit... hell maybe I watch it 12 hours a day... that doesn't mean I can throw the meanest spiral you've seen in your life... hell I might not even be able to throw a spiral and I sure as fuck won't learn it by watching TV... I'll learn it by throwing the ball around.
ps grats on embarking on this. it is a long road and it is hard, but it is worth it. if you have any questions shoot me a pm and i'll help ya out best as i can

[Brandon]

That gay bar line just cracks me up. I love that line.
-If you are seriously saying stuff like that in your very first opeing ever - then you are doing just fine. How do you go from not being able to approach - to throwing out material like that? Was it the environment that you were in, or was it the fact that it was a group vs an individual girl?
But yeah -- PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. -- and everything will work out for you.

[Creation]

Hey thanks guys, yeah I know that I have a lot of work to do but there's no time like the present so I'm just gonna take it one step at a time. I do have one question though. When moving from A1-A3 it seems like you take jumps in a convo that might come off as kind of weird.
Eg. Say I do a bi-girl opener, then as soon as I'm done do I move into doing an ESP test? And then to the cube? It seems like total random jumps in conversation that I don't know how to link. Especially when I approach a group, how do I go from talking to all of them at once to isolating the one girl? Do I just concentrate on her and ignore everyone else who is literally right next to her? Do I move her somewhere? If so how would I get her to do that?
How do I do all this without coming off as weird/forward? Is there fluff in between the A's or do you just keep firing them one after another with no talk in between?
I'm getting right back on that pony tomorrow so I need some quickie advice so help me out dudes.

[Sun Slayer]

Congrats, Creation - great start!
I would just focus on getting sets to hook right now. Don't worry if your material seems to have 'random jumps'. If you deliver with confidence, it doesn't matter.
My advice for right now is to practice with one opener for a week. Every single set, use the same opener. You will positively own it after that. Also, memorize one all-purpose neg, "your nose wiggles when you talk" is a great one. Use a False Time Constraint (FTC) every single time.
Memorize one very short DHV story, ex: "I was ridin' my Harley with my girl on the back the other day and some newbie laid his bike down, so I got the other guys to help me pull his bike off the road and get him to the hospital."
Finally, a qualifier: ex: "what makes you special besides your looks? Beauty is common."
So, if you can remember:
opener
FTC
neg
DHV
qualifier
then you are doing great. In the beginning, you won't even get to your DHV or qualifier often. A lot of sets end fast at first. Just do the same thing over and over and over. Pay close attention to your body language and energy level. Then, slowly add new openers, negs, etc.
In hindsight, I wish I had started that way. I tried to mix it up, and tried to internalize too much advanced game, and it made the whole (really easy) thing seem complicated.
good luck
love
SS

[Creation]

NEWBIE MISSION DAY 2:
Didn't sarge too much today because I was too busy getting my house furnished/set up, but did manage to get two sets in.
Set 1 was a solo hb 7 I saw walking down the street towards me in my neighbourhood:
Creation: Hey, do you live around here somewhere?
hb: yeah, whatsup
Creation: Cool I need an opinion on something, where are all the good places to party at...
bla bla bla...gay bar opener
We fluffed for a little bit, I found out what program she was in, but she wasn't that interesting and DEFINITELY not what I was looking for, so I abandoned MM (which was bad because I could have gotten practice) and just talked normally for a minute then ejected.
Set 2 happened when I was walking back home from a bar(about 20 mins ago) and I saw a 2 set eating Mcd's outside at a table:
Creation: Hey, are you girls from around here?
2 set: Yeah whatsup
gay club opener again...didn't get that much laughs that time though, maybe because I was/am drunk and was studdering and stumbling my words a little.
Creation: What course are you guys in?
HB: bla bla bla
Creation: Cool I'm taking business but I think I'm gonna take a minor in psych, here let me try something on you that I learned in class today, I only have a second because I have to get back to my friends but...bla bla ESP test (found a way to transition to ESP baby!!!)...
One thing though, I asked her to give me her hands and she gave them to me palms up (IOD)...how would I go about getting her more comfortable with me?
HB: Yeah I know this trick, most people always pick Denmark bla bla bla
Creation: (shit she knew it, ok play it cool) Oh ok sweet it IS the real deal then, it looks like this prof knows his stuff, I might just stay in his class after all.
HB: bla bla bla
We fluff a little more and then I say I have to go get back to my friends...
Now I'm about 95% positive I could have gotten her number, but I didn't have a cell OR a pen on me, plus she was just practice so I didn't sweat it too much.
So overall a good day, I found it WAYYY easier to approach today, most sets I can approach but there are still some that I get nervous around (mainly mixed sets who are deep in conversation)
Lessons:
1. AA DOES go away with more approaches.
2. Most people are actually nice once you approach them, and most of us worry about approaching them for nothing.
3.I CAN gain a girl's interest, even if it's not at the level of hook point YET...
So that's it guys my DAY 2...one thing that I want to do that I haven't done yet is to get girls laughing...as in REALLY laughing, not just a little chuckle, how would I go about that? I feel that if I can do that, then that would go a long way with gaining comfort.

[Galeon]

Awesome Creation. Your lessons learned are very encouraging to me, especially 1 and 2. I have to prove 1 to myself by approaching more, and I will take your word on 2... but until I approach more (can't sarge every day cuz I work long hours) I still worry about getting brushed off rudely. Can't wait till weekend so I can go out.

[Loren]

nice write-up creation. I should do my first set soon. I have AA just siting here in my house. I have pills that are friggin amazing but I want to do it without them (I have a really bad case of anxiety. When everyone goes around and introduces themselves in class I can't even say "Hello, my name is Loren"). Damn, my AA is going to be fun (I shake, turn bright red, start sweating, ball in throat, head goes blank, etc).

[Creation]

Wow thanks everybody, I'm feeling the love on this thread, but seriously I appreciate all the replies. I'm glad I can help.
Loren if you're AA is THAT bad, then I suggest holding off on the MM for a while and just concentrate on getting comfortable with talking to people.
I'd start by just shooting the shit with people I already know, learning how to open to people in your social circle more, then after that just start small talk with people you know but aren't that close with. Even if it's just saying "Hey dude, how's it goin...yeah I'm cool, see you around". Then just progress from there. We all have to start somewhere, just because you're starting line was a mile behind everyone else's doesn't mean you can't cross the finish line.
Newbie Mission Day 3
Didn't sarge all day because I was too busy setting up all my school stuff. Night time rolled around and It was student night at the club. One thing I just realized tonight is that it is a LOT harder running MM in a club than it is in the day. Girls' attention spans are MUCH shorter, so your game has to be top notch for her not to get bored and walk away after a while.
I tried talking to some girls on the dance floor, and got brushed each time. This happened around 4 times, the girls just weren't listening to what I was saying. Plus it seems that indirect game doesn't work as well in clubs because as soon as you approach a girl, no matter what you say, she thinks that you're hitting on her. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, if I am then someone PLEASE tell me. How do sarge in clubs?
However, I WAS introduced to two separate girls on two separate occasions while in the club and I sarged them both.
The basic layout was like this
Wing: Hey Creation, this is hb. Hb this is Creation.
(Shooting the shit, talking about random stuff, keeping the conversation light/in the entire group)
Creation: Hey dude come here I wanna try something on you. I'm gonna give you a palm read.
Hb: Umm...okay/sweet/sure why not
(Palm reading routine...Now mind you, I have NO IDEA how to palm read, so I bull shitted my way through it, which I think she picked up on after a little while)
One point in the palm read, when I said that the size of the pad on her thumb indicates that she's sensitive to touch, and ran my fingers up along her arm, she accused me of talking shit and that I only did this whole thing to get to touch her.
I realized that this was a shit test, so I ignored it, and gave her a little "yeah right" sort of stare, at which she said she was just joking. Looking back on that, I think I could have handled it better, maybe played off of it so to make it look like SHE wanted ME to touch her? Any suggestions?
I'm pretty sure I reached a hook point with both girls (1st hook point baby!) but after a while they still seemed to get bored and leave. So now my new problem is that I have to learn how to escalate better, to keep the girls hooked. Any suggestions on that too?
So lessons learned:
1. Sarging in clubs needs a higher level of game than in the day.
2. Escalation is a MAJOR part of PU, as it keeps the girl hooked past your openers.