Thread: FR: 6/13/09 Mall number close

So I was cruising with my buddies at Modesto's Vintage Faire Mall around 6:40 pm when my female friend gets offered to have free makeup done for her. So me and her boyfriend sit down and wait for her. It takes a exorbitant amount of time apparently to have make up put on, we waited for a straight 30 minutes before. In this time though, I strike a conversation with one of cute make-up girls.

A for Attract/Approach

Me: Hey, what color mascra do you think would look good on me?
H: are you messing with me?
Me: No, honestly which color?
H: Well, we only carry one color, black.
Me: O, good that will accentuate the color of my eyes.
H: I think your eyes are brown, not black
Me: all the better, the shadow makes my eyes stand out!
H: (laughs)
Me: whats your name?
H: (Bleep)
Me: I am Yang, Nice to meet you

B for Banter/Buying Temperature

H: Honestly, I thought you were here to hit on me.
Me: O really, is that what guys usually do?
H: Yea, you know, guys walk around, they get bored so they come over and try and hit on me.
But I am glad we're just talking.
me: What if I told you I was hitting on you, would you like that?
H: (laughs)

C for Comfort:

We then chatted for a good 20 minutes, talked about her life as a cosmologist, wants to go to cosmology school and grew up in modesto all her life, and she was only 19.

At this point I am intrigued and she was cute, she had a black shirt on which showed some very nice assets and wore very red lipstick.

In this interaction, I asked her what the different bottles on her counter did, and she demonstrated each one on me, one was an astringent and then a toner, both of which she used to see if my face had dirt on it. We both found out, I had a very clean face, more a surprise to her than me. She shared with me she thought at first that I was hitting on her and was just chatting her up, but she was glad to know we were just talking, not sure what this meant. But as we were about to leave, I went for the number close.

D for Direct Interest

Me: Hey your heading off now?
H: Yea, my shift is over.
Me: Whats your number?
H: Are you serious? Its ............
Me: Okay, bye, nice talking to you.

I didn't know how this would play out, but all throughout the interaction, we were pretty comfortable, sexual, maybe not the most. I thought I was pretty direct.

So that night I txted her to let her know my number.
And the next day, I txted her:

Me: Hey so for you day off, I want to take you to a dinner and moive. I don't know if you've seen UP but I really want to. How does that sound?
H: Sounds so good but I lost my job today gotta find a new one ya know... Besides I don't think my boyfriend would care for it all that much lol. Thank you tho


Now I am wondering, how convient is that she lost her job and suddenly has a boyfriend? I can't remember if I asked her if she had a boyfriend, but I thought I did, now I can't remember. Anyway, I think I definitely learned a few things.

Things I did well:

A, B, C and some of D.

Things I could've done better:

Made sure she didn't have a bf.
To some extent I almost felt like she was playing me, but I can't be sure.

Please comment and discuss.

Yang

I think u went way too quick for the date. You should have jked around with her first. Kept attraction, qualifying, and comfort up.

I dont think she has a bf... She may not have lost her job, she doesn't want the awkwardness of u running into her again.

Just keep sarging bro. Btw, i don't think it would be bad to reinitiate the convo in like a couple weeks or more by going to the mall and "running into her".

infact i ended up giving my # to this HBbisexual like a month ago. I'm planning to go back and be like "hey wuts up.... im actually waiting to meet with a friend, but since she's running a bit late I thought I might aswell come here and let u entertain me" and take it from there.


If u wanna send a txt.... i suggest "too bad... your loss " then wait it out

Nice execution of Asian playboys pickup model.

If a girls feeling you, she'll fuck you either way, boyfriend or not; so don't ever ask if they have a boyfriend, because they'll just use it as an excuse later on when you try to escalate.

I definitely like this pickup style.

You came off as way too needy with the traditional dinner and a movie shit, throw that shit out the window; you wanna get laid, not married.

Next time ask her if she wants to come hangout with you, and get some ice cream downtown or something. Then you can lead her back to your place.

Make it seem like a fun, low-commitment hangout.

If she had any interest in you, she lost it with that line (sorry to be blunt) because you lost all your intrigue and were just like every other guy out there trying to get in her pants. We've all gone there and it's next to impossible to recover.

Hope this helps,

dis-O-bayish on mine 925 baby, YEE!



Seven

You know I guess sometimes I get the seduction model confused with dating. I'll admit, sometimes when I've hooked a girl, I change my goals midstream and decide that I want to date her instead of f-closing her. With this girl, I never intended to date her, but some part of my mind must've wanted to do the dating thing. Looking back on my post, I agree it ranged a bit intense and needy.

But one thing I don't get is how acting disinterested can possibly demonstrate value, I mean its probably a AFC question but I know when I had my last girlfriend, I was literally very busy, and never really thought about girls all that much.

Originally Posted by AznBaySensation

But one thing I don't get is how acting disinterested can possibly demonstrate value, I mean its probably a AFC question but I know when I had my last girlfriend, I was literally very busy, and never really thought about girls all that much.

It makes it seem as though you have other, more important things going on in your life. She then wants to be a part of your life since its clearly more interesting than her. You are ALWAYS having more fun than her and doing something more interesting. You NEVER have a bad day. Cool things happen on a day to day basis. Keep that frame.

You do convey interest, but not until SHE QUALIFIES!
You Disqualify yourself (if Indirect)-Attract her-Qualify her-Build Comfort-then Seduce.

Also it just makes you seem different from other guys since you aren't fawning all over her, like you are used to dealing with HBs all the time, call it a preselection thing. Plus it makes you challenging, and that is imperitive.

Other guys (AFC) = dinner and a movie....Never do that date again. You can't build comfort in a movie theater, its lame and makes you AFC in her eyes.

And don't worry about dating a girl you are trying to seduce, lol. At least the middle goal of any relationship is sex (let's be honest) you can worry about marriage after you've talked to her on phone or met her in a social setting or kissed her hand or anything. You jumped WAY ahead of yourself.