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    Hey guys. I've been out in the field every day for the last 3 weeks. I'm not new to the game. However, I've recently felt drawn to going out again.

    I live by the beach in socal. I am mainly experienced in day game.

    I've been doing beach approaches during the day for about an hour. Weekends I try to go out at night. I've gone from creating genuinely awkward moments to seeing glimmers of hope and progress.

    I don't have much to say right now other than how seriously hard I am finding this to be. I just want to have my own thread where I can post the good, the bad and the potentially dangerous.

    I'm a musician. Though that seems to be nearly irrelevant when it comes to game, I'm happy to report that as a result of going out and talking, I played an impromptu show at a local cafe and unceremoniously blew out my voice. This has helped with body language since I can't really speak much for the last few days.

    I'm pretty good at approaching, opening and transitioning. Everything after is a fog. I feel like I've missed a number of opportunities by not knowing exactly how to move, escalate and close. Last week I was practicing kino. The highlight was grabbing a girl's ass on accident. Good thing she was cool with it. This coming week I will focus on moving, closing and not giving up (ejecting) too easily.
    I pretty much feel like becoming better at this is a top priority in my life. I hope to have valuable insights to share and maybe even a few funny stories. For example, how I got banned from this local bar during one bartender's shift. Actually, that story is lame, not funny, so I won't get into it.

    Nice to meet you guys. May we all be the studs we've dreamed of being.



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    I went out last night (Friday). Felt tired. Walked down to the little mini downtown area. I sat on a bench to get the vibe. I walked past the coffee house I played at. I should've stayed there and opened but I really was not wanting to "practice any game" yesterday. I went into a place that is like a wine bar with munchies and just walked straight to the counter. Didn't open any set on the way in. The hottest girls in the place were asking how to spell touche so I opened my mouth and told them. They were about 20 ft away. I didn't transition and they didn't say anything so I just let it go. The people next to me were also drinking red wine so I opened them. I transitioned half-heartedly. Nothing.

    Then I talked to the cook. He was cool.

    Went outside, talked to a table next to me. A dude and his wife. Both maybe in their late late 40s or early 50s.

    I was having fun. Noottt.

    I went to buy a bottle of wine. It's extremely awkward to go buy a bottle of wine for yourself on a Friday night apparently.

    I came home and text messaged whores for a few hours. No, literally whores. Or, escorts. I'm not going to pay tho. It was at least entertaining.

    Today I have homework. It's like 2pm. I wish I was out but I have shit to do. I'm going to have to finish my homework before the weekend. This is asinine.

    I hate having to use "game techniques" but I think I'm just going to have to humble myself in order to get better. I can feel certain things I should be doing but sometimes I don't effing feel like it.

    Anyway, text some hoes if you're ever bored. It's fun!

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    Oh, and I made a commitment to not masturbate for at least 3 months. Yes, I'm dying but it's helping a lot. More time to do stuff hah.

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    It's been a mixed bag this weekend. I want to get into my mindset right now and talk about facts later.

    I hate the game. That's what I used to say to myself. I feel like my understanding of what "The Game" is has changed, though.

    I used to think "The Game" was a bunch of things I had to do to not be myself. I'm basically a sociopath. The only difference is that I have a heart and don't genuinely seek to hurt others. So, playing trite social games has never appealed to me.

    But now I see the game differently. I see that, though many women seem to be attracted to me, not all of them will make a suitable partner. Nor will I make a suitable partner for all of them.

    Going out with the mindset that this whole society is built on the fundamental lie that people are not sluts is helping me right now. It's helped me get in touch with that which is primal within myself. It's also helping me connect that to my heart and my mind. I would say I'm becoming integrated.

    The only way I can make this more clear is by saying that my intention is to fuck women. It's not to talk to guys, it's not to improve my social skills, it's not to be famous, not to make friends, not to network or promote my business or even to get a tan. It's to put my penis in a girl's willing body.

    That being said, being aligned with that is helping me to appreciate everything else for it's own value. Some women are more "friend-oriented" meaning that their social circle is very important to them. This is not my type of girl but they exist. Some women are a bit past breeding age but still make good flirt partners and practice dummies (so to speak). Some girls are too young and not worth going to jail for. Some girls are not the impulsive type.

    Ok, enough with the philosophy. I number closed a hot girl but fucked up the phone game. I've really struggled with the phone my whole life. I read in Magic Bullets that getting a number is like a failure. I love this thought. It really emphasizes the visceral connection and pull that must be made in a pickup. There are impulsive women. These are the type I desire. I at least endeavor to appeal to a woman's impulses so that all the niceities are for a purpose.

    This is pretty philosophical. I can't help it. As far as facts go, I opened a set at a coffee house, got bored, ejected. Walked around, observed some behaviors, felt my responses, went home, did homework, called whores. Went to bed.

    I met a lady at an art expo today, talked, kinoed, got her email, grabbed her ass and got a kiss on the cheek. Perfect pickup as far as an email close is concerned. I'm surprised how easily a woman will let you touch her ass in public and how quickly.

    All I'm saying is that it helps to know what you want, have the courage to go for it and realize that "no" is just a footprint on the path to "yes". That doesn't mean that *I* have to be better than or other than I am. It just means that if I talk to enough girls (or people in general) two things is going to happen: 1. My social skills will improve and 2. I'll find girls that it'll work out with.

    Like these LS guys say, logistics has a lot to do with it. But also values matter, the girl's age matters, your personal desires and preferences matter. I realized that I don't have to game at a coffee house or any place where I'm not completely comfortable. I think trying to fuck women will always be a tad bit awkward. That's why they call it breaking the ice.

    In summary, if you look at girls like they would fuck you RIGHT NOW given the chance, it puts everything into perspective. I think that if the girl wouldn't fuck me right on the spot given the right conditions, she probably wouldn't anyway. Sure, maybe another day, if I lose a few more pounds, if I develop my act blah blah blah. I'm focused on the girls who want it, let me know they want it and will give it to me within a reasonable frame of time and without extra baggage. This is why getting numbers can suck. You think "Oh boy, a number!" Wrong. You have to be focused on the prize. I'm not here to orbit. I'm a comet not a moon.

    I also think that this game stuff needs to be put into perspective. LS is a business. Game is reality. You can't teach reality. But there's a lot of cool stuff that can be learned. They're just not the same thing though. It's hard to explain. None of us "need" anything. We just need to know what we want. Get clear on that and the rest will follow, I think.

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    My advice: get a good wingman. It can be priceless, will increase your survival time in an AMOG infested enviorment (Beaches, Nightclubs) and will make you look more interesting. Besides having a good wingman will get you on the spot reviews of what you just did, how you opened, any faults in the routines. Etc...

    Get Thyself a Wingman.

    EDIT: Oh! and I agree, being a musician is irrelevant. It can also be DLV as it is in my case.

    She: "Oh! Really you play in a band?!! What kind of music?"
    Me: "Stuff like Dying Fetus, Asesino... you know... GrindCore and Death Metal"
    She: "..."


    XD

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    Touching a girl's ass to help your kino? What type of shit is that man? Some of the things you said made since but some didn't. And having sex isn't what "The Game" is all about, you need more goals then that. If sex is all you want then you might as well actually pay for escorts. You're going about game the wrong way, that's why I doubt I would see any improvement in you no time soon in my opinion. Not to be negative but I had a friend just like you with the same views and all. I tried to teach him the game, but he thought a lot differently to where it didn't make since to go about the things that he was doing. Actually learn the game and stay out there and HAVE FUN! Don't just think about sex all the time or you will never get it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Greezy View Post
    Don't just think about sex all the time or you will never get it!
    Oh I'm going to get it. Some dudes are more effed up than being horny and are getting it. If I wasn't horny I wouldn't go out at all! So, though I see you're coming from the "Bright Side", I'll keep my roots underground, thank you very much.

    But on that note, I went out to two bars last night. It was EXTREEEMELY awkward since I will not play the game. But, I have good energy and presence. I will not break. It just makes it clear that I will have to do some approaching. But, I will approach on my terms.

    TimG - lol. Musician is DLV. It's so true. Their ears perk up initially but then I spend 25 awkward seconds explaining that, actually I'm not IN a band. I'm a producer so I do it all myself. But saying you play shows seems to be a DHV. Or, maybe having them actually see you play. Preferably on a stage. But yea. Walking up to a group of HS Seniors and saying, "Hey Bitches, get in the van! I'm a guitar player!" doesn't seem to fall into the Tao of pickup.

    So I'm pretty obsessed at this point. I'm going out WAY more than I had initially intended. I have to tho. No masturbation and plenty of time mean I'm no longer messing with Plenty of Fish. I'm sick of my account getting deleted. Plus, look at those girls pics honestly. Most of them actually do look like fish. Who knows what they smell like. It's like ordering beef off Amazon. I'd rather just go to Albertsons and get it fresh.

    Haven't paid for sex yet (in a long time) and it's only noon. I have plenty of time to make it happen today. Hide your sunblock. They're coming out!

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    I got laid today. That is all. (Will report)

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    Basically I went out. Went out to a bar. Was totally committed to kinoing everyone and going as hard as possible. I even approached a set as soon as I entered which I rarely do (though I am familiar with the perceived benefits). That girl wasn't down. So I entered another set, looked around and realized it wasn't my thing and I left. I went to another bar, opened two sets and left. I was just chilling outside, opened another set, babysat a dudes girl for a min then approached another set. Chilled, girls joined, I positioned myself close to her, kinoed, moved and moved and moved and moved and moved and moved and moved and moved and moved and moved until she gave me a condom.

    Case closed.

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    Today is Friday. I'm taking time off jiu jitsu to rest. I've been going hard with training plus social plus school and I'm getting broken down. I went to the beach, opened a few then got a massage. Just took a shower, bout to knock out the rest of my homework.

    Jack, I've been thinking about what you said. I'll agree that there is more than one reason to leave the house. I've just never been much of a guy who accumulates friends. I just like to hit and run. I've always felt like I have to compromise when I'm in groups.

    Lately I've been feeling like people expect me to lead. I've been challenging myself with these various areas of my life so I guess I should be surprised. These are just subtle shifts in my feelings. I wonder if any of you guys have noticed a sudden or gradual transition into certain types of authentic leadership.

    On to school. Ciao.

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