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    solo and sober is so tough

    and daygame is even harder as this isn't it. ?
    Last weekend I visited my FB and I had sex. But I had one day at the weekend I decided to go out.
    I was slightly ill and the party wasn't good So I opened zero sets, I only stayed for 30 Minutes or something.
    Thanks to me keeping logs about every single sarge I am able to do statistics. Most of the time when going out solo and sober I am not opening at all. Still better than staying at home. But I have to get good at this in order to do daygame in some not so far future....
    Then there is another think about alcohol: Back in the times before I quit I usually once a week ended up shitfaced, waking up finding all my clothes somewhere in my room, not remembering how I came home and so on. But now however I only drink till 1.2 per mill maximum. I rarely end up totally wasted, the day after drinking still feels like shit, and If I want to sarge again I have to do alc as well in order to compensate the pain and bad mood. But in short I don't have those negative aspects about drinking I used to have. Still I think relying on alc can never be the solution, to circumvent fear. Back in my drinking days I had two main problems that continuously prevented me from getting laid:
    Number one: I did not dare to open. So I drank.
    Number two: I got too drunk so I blew all sets I accidentally hat.. And for most of the time I didn't open even though I drank my poisonous courage.

    Anyways there was this big party during the week and I went there solo as well but I drank. This was some really huge festival and while lining up I hat enough time to check out the other audience. I guess 80 percent males, and all chicks tiny and so young. I thought to myself fuck it then I am not opening and just enjoying myself. But after a while I just couldn't help but opening. I even opened those young girls, and they mostly did open and some really hotties returned my kino right from the beginning. One was dragged away, one fled etc etc. So I dont have any results like closes. But I learned that those girls like to be opened by me. I went home slept, and went right to the afterhour. There was this cute but really like 19yo HB_8 and she opened me. We danced It was hard for me to understand her because of the music. And she opened another quite handsome guy. And I at the beginning doubted do hook up with her. Because she was marked from a hard night of party, and this was slightly disgusting. So I had to compete with this other guy.. Anyways she was clearly into me, and I idiot did two times engage a conversation with other guys while in set with her. I should have escalated to a KC.. how can I be so stupid ?
    Anyway the party was fun game on.



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    one step forward one step back

    On Friday a had to fly solo. The party was alright but I expected way more and too loud as well. It took me a while to feel comfortable. Then I finally opened one set. She looked similar to a girl I have opened on another party but I knew I wasn't open her, but I used it as an opener. I ejected after she told me about her BF.
    That's pretty much it, I haven't stayed long. But I had one damn set still unusual for me sarging solo. As mentioned in the post above I usually don't open solo and sober so this was basically a good night. I did not have any AA with this set. So why don't open more ?
    Because it feels unusual, and the somewhat lame opener was an excuse for me ? Stupid eh with this pace I will be PUA when i am retired. I just have to force me.
    One word to my defense there were one approachable HB_9 which got me intimidated, I by now don't open that high, and most of the rest was way too young like always.
    I don't do online game but there is this german social network site which now has almost become an online dating portal. At the moment I don't really spend time in online gaming because I think it's lame and cheap. (And frustrating as well.) But I somehow ended up chatting with a HB_7-8 . I had a date with her on the other day.
    I went to a party which started on the afternoon them dated that social network HB and afterward wend back to the party.
    The party was allright, but again way too young audience. The date was terrible. She was a HB_6 in real live and we did not even vibe. Which maybe has been caused by me expecting an 7+ and getting a unfuckable shy and boring HB_6.
    Lol but being the gentleman I am I stayed for even two beer. I was to harsh for me to just leave her after the first drink. Or even when I have seen her.
    God I was so happy to going back to that party.
    There still the audience was too young. But this one young HB_8.5 (in my eyes) you might think lower was checking me out, or at least she was looking in my direction because I was looking in her direction. I did not open. I waited for a better timing or I don't know and then she was gone. If I'd been out with friends I would have told my friend that I like her, and that I am going to open her. So I would not have another choice but opening. I would have had opened her, without getting any AA or whatsoever like almost always. Then it might have been a blowout and I would have not given a fuck, but still counted this try better than doing nothing. I am still not good in going solo... And I am still not going direct ... But I don't have any AA anymore why am I opening so little ?!?

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    stagnation ?

    I have not been out lately ,
    I was but I ran into my FB HB_cat and I met up with her on other occasions, I have been at parties where my friends and she was, and I did not want my friends to see her with me. It's time to ditch her, at least if she keeps acting like wanting more than just sex.. I know its time to move along. I still have another FB who I will visit from time to time or vice versa. She is not material to show around my friends, but she still has values which make her very eff-able..
    So what have I done without posting FR's ?not much. I was tiered of going out.
    I still open solo and sober. I got opened, solo sober and there are exceptions to the rule but not worth mentioning.
    I keep track of all my sets. And I give myself points for closes NC FC KC + HB-number amplifier. I was so sure I will beat 2k11 but last month I did not have ANY closes. Unusual for 2k12 but still not special for 2k11 .. I knew there will be a time where I cant beat the year before last year. The only thing worth mentioning is that I opened a girl at a gas station in daygame.. I will go out on friday and I will watch soccer on Saturdays .. In short I am alive and I took a break. I am glad my HB_cat thing is over and I will be forced more on results. Having 2 FB's makes you saturated...
    thx for reading my reports despite having nothing to report. Anyways I will go out on Friday and I will be alone.. It's soo hard running around and all HBs are like at least 14years younger than me I don't want to hit on 22 year old girls. ...
    fuedel out

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    guess what happes after 12

    I still have a lack of enthusiasm going out. At least alone. Not typical for me maybe I'm getting old.
    So there I was hanging around alone after training its getting midnight, I am tired and ready for going to bed. Not bad for a Friday night hu ?
    Then my phone rings my crazy friend mike calls he is drunk an no one wants to go out with him. I am still not in the mood but of course I meet up with him, but not for usual clubbing I decided to go for a bar. At the bar there was only one set. HB_7.5 and HB_5. I wanted to open this set in a subtle way, by sitting next to them, then toasting, asking whether they will go out after the pub and where are they from, cause I am sober and low energy. They where too. Mike rushes in sits right in front of the HB_7.5 so i have to sit next to the 5. He talks to both so i lower my value being quiet. The girls were medium bitchy in the beginning but mike keeps just talking, I have noticed this behaviour often he is just talking even if its just rubbish coming out ouf his mouth asking stupid things etc. So if i want to engage the set I have to battle with him because he of course doesn’t involve me in this set. I try half assed to chat up the 5 but she is dumb, and does not want to talk so I sit there pretty stupid. The 5 chooses to play with her cell. I don't want to fight with mike's set for attention.
    The girls go to the toilet together. Then for a smoke with us all. HB 5 leaves. HB_7.5 would have stayed anyway but to at least some degree liked mike's company. We stand at the bar I chat up a group of guys. Mike joins I go back to HB_7.5 and finally she talks without the competition of drunk mike, she likes what I am telling her, the set goes good. But we are leaving for a club. HB_7.5 won't join anyway because she has to work tomorrow. A little success I gained her attention. She might have even been more into me than mike.
    At the club I just dance for a long while. Then I open a set with a toast, but I think I forget to smile. They might have left because of this. I talk a little bit with a girl mike opened before. But not like "game" just fun.
    Then finally I see an approachable set, which I thought might have given me an proximity AI, I hesitate to open. I finally think about an opener, I wanted to compliment her because her exotic looks and wanted to ask about her nationality. I wait for the right time. She is getting herself a pigtail, I jump in and tell her i liked her hair open, then we talk a little about her nationality. But I don't know how to transition and I eject. If she really was into me she would have looked into my direction and I would have reopened her. But she didn't. Anyway this set was important. Because I opened sober. And I still doubt me If i can open sober. Did I have AA?No. So why am I opening so little? This would have been a good warmup set. So I realize it is easy for me to open.
    Outside we stand for a smoke. This drunk HB_8_young chats us up. I mange to get her attention and I isolate her. Mike talks to some guy. The set goes well, but I don't want to escalate so fast. After a while mike says to us come on lets go inside. HB_8_young says she stays a little longer. Mike presists. I say nothing and after three "Hey lets go inside" we all go. Damn I just should have said "mike take it easy we will join you in one minute" and just stay. This girl kinoed me etc. But we where watched by the bouncer what irritated me (don't want to explain in detail why) . Damn she was hot and mike destroyed the my set. Maybe because of subconscious jealousy maybe because he was just drunk. Somehow our ways separated the moment we step into the club and I didnt see her and I didnt look for her. That was very stupid. Then shortly before leaving I see her passing me she recognizes me while passing me, but we both are not saying anything. She was in company anyway.
    Later while going home we opened two sets. It's so hard to open because mike is not thinking and opening always before me. But we had to more conversations. One was completely blown by mike talking stupid drunk shit the other one was ok but just talking the set was FMMM anyway.
    All in all not so bad, I had no mood for going out in the beginning. I opened sober, and I had fun with my friend. Who opened way more than me. I had four sets worth mentioning.
    I tried having sets while not being in clubs. While watching the soccer championship. And I had one set. It was not easy to open because of my company. And the Situation. I am still on a very early stage of opening not in clubs. But this is the direction I surely want to go.
    This weekend I will visit my FB HB_oyster so I might only go out once, and again alone, and no good parties that night, lets see what will happen.

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    no clubgame to report

    I wasnt sarging - clubbing lately. Why ? I don't like solo, I am watching the football championships. I am trying daygame but it's a big failure. I want to rely on clubgame anymore. I have bad logistics for going out solo @ the moment. And I visited my FB.
    My statistics for last month are so bad. And I had no close whatsoever. That's the first month in this year without any closes. No wonder with those little sets, and going out
    I will have a plan how to change my low motivation and my little sarging but for now only a short report about the very little encounters I still had.
    I opened a three set while walking after watching a soccer game. My opener was hey you three are wearing the same trousers. One was receptive. and answered: yes we are sisters. But they weren't. Our ways split after a short while. And I did not continue, I should have stopped them if someone actively prolongs the conversation it means interested. But It felt strange for me opening in an unusual situation.
    Then there was this private party. A HB7 which i didn't know arrived, very late some friends point out to me that I should open her because she is into me. I opened shortly later, It was a little pressure cause of this forced situation I did good, but she did not actively ask me something back, I did not correct my body language to face towards her after opening. And she somehow was just gross/cheap, I did not want to continue so I ejected.
    Another Interaction at daytime I standing at a traffic - light I non verbally greeted a HB_8 she did not return me greeting, but It felt good one step to conquer my day game nemesis.
    Another thing there are two social girls HB_7 and HB_9. HB_7 now has a BF i was told I was not persistent enough in the past. Nice friends hu? Why didn't they tell me beforehand that she might be interested and I should make a move. Maybe he is right, but I don't want to ask her out while all my friends are sitting at the same table, should I ?! Anyways with this "set" a had really bad luck and logistics for asking her out really fucked me over. On the other hand I met her afterward and I did nothing. I am not THAT attracted to her anyway.
    Then there is another relatively new HB_9 in my social circle. I met her on a public viewing soccer game. We only had short interactions she did not really ask me much, but a female friend told that it looked like she liked me. Later she added me on facebook. Now I hope I will see her again soon maybe tomorrow.
    Not much to report but at least 4 sets!
    Feudel out for now.

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    New month new luck. My route to get back on track.

    One day I went out to a street festival, I found it very hard to open there. Still not used to sarge on occasions besides clubs. Another reason is I was hanging out with an AFC friend, who does not game. I wanted to head out solo and sober to a club afterward, but was too tired, maybe too intimidated.
    The next day I finally had a chance to sarge like I used to, and I went out with a female friend to a slightly snobbish club. But she wanted to leave one hour after we have arrived. So I only have been in the club for about 20-30 Minutes. It usually takes me this long to loosen up, have taken care of my company before I even think about opening. But during this time I had one set, I of course opened situational. It felt rusty and uncalibrated, but she smiled to me after the opener so I could have continued. She wanted me to continue. But I haven't seen her and I had to leave. Most of the time i was sitting outside with my female friend in "isolation" so there where no opportunities to open.
    The bottom line of this sarge is, I did not have AA when I have opened my set. Again why am I opening so little?
    So what will I do to improve and get back on track? I almost never opened when out solo. And I increasingly feel stupid going out solo.
    But this club feels allright for solo sarging, so I will give it another try this weekend. And I will never go sarging without goals, depending on the situation I will have a plan to step by step increase my game

    - Daygame
    A - Forcing IOI's
    B - N/A
    - Solo Clubbing
    A - At least staying 1,5 hours if the party is acceptable
    B - Opening Situational
    C - N/A
    - Club Sarging
    A - Opening at least 5 sets
    B - Opening direct
    C - N/A
    - Social Circle
    A - If I like a girl, ask her out if the time and rapport is right
    So I have at least 6 goals, at the monent, another Important thing learing thory again, and exercising in front of the mirror.
    I will have two weeks of a vacation soon, so there will be maybe 10 days for doing the Stylelife challange and Demonic confidence simultaniously.

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    I need to step out of my comfort Zone

    I went out solo once. I Achieved the first little baby - step and stayed for more than one and a half hours. I did not open. I was there solo once, and did not open there either. There haven't been obvious approachable sets. But I could have done better, if I would have achieved two goals I would have been proud of me.
    Then there was this social circle party HB9_new who I met before twice, who added me on Facebook checked me out, but she was sitting at a table with no free seats next to her. I was like who cares the party is going to last very long. But she left after 1.5 hrs. She did not even say bye to me. I really had a bad mood the last days because of my results. Damn, a close friend of mine asked me how stupid a am not saying anything? Damn me I am just playing it too slow and safe. I must admit I am not convinced that I am good enough for her, so my inner game is not doing me any good with this set.
    I closed five girls the first months of this year only two where lays but the other were makeouts and dates were I decided not to continue to the lay.
    So why am I feeling now as a complete looser? I have to expand my comfort Zone radically.
    The other thing is in daygame, where I have never opened. I have been shopping lately and I was just trying to foce IOI's even this is hard for me. I talked to
    two girls, the first was a very weird functional opener, I did not begin with "hey" I did not smile, I did not say thank you. How lame. I was a nice with the second set, but is was 100% functional, I flirted with a cashier, she liked it but she was a 6. Again how lame.

    In have to expand my comfort zone.
    Here Is my list, next sarge I will AT LEAST archive one more point on my list.

    - Daygame
    A - Forcing IOI's
    B - N/A
    - Solo Clubbing
    A - At least staying 1,5 hours if the party is acceptable <- achieved
    B - Opening Situational
    C - N/A
    - Club Sarging
    A - Opening at least 5 sets
    B - Opening direct
    C - N/A
    - Social Circle

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    My change of tactics im game

    Hi folks,
    First of how many additional points of my 2do list have I completed ? None.
    This time I even went out with friends, first I thought I would have to fly solo. But I came to the conclusion to change my game plan in general but more on this later....
    Friday:
    I just wanted to stay in, but I got a call like short past 12 and I was jumping in my car in notime. So I am in the club, realize again that most chicks are too young. But this one set was an 8 and approachable, we had little EC but I once passed her on my way to the toilet, and I realized how she and her friend where eying me and I did nothing, I wanted to approach later, I did not find her anymore, damn the situation was perfect three sec rule like. But I did not find the proper opener.
    After that I went on my own to grab some food, there where two chicks walking my direction and I opened situational, I did not transition. I did not know how.
    Then I realized how I like my canned opener again, I used to hate it. Its a classic one about a quick female opinion etc... . I haven't used it in a year or something, It would have been perfect for both of these situations.
    Saturday:
    I went out late to a club which really was dead, no sets at all, only maybe one cougar HB_7 but too old. I could have done some practice on her.
    We went to this party because, one GF of one of my friends knew many people who wanted to go there. When they finally arrived they were all pretty drunk, met other people they knew acted weird to those who they didn't know, and talked in a different language to each other.
    I once tried to start a conversation to two of them girls, as so often when addressing a group I had the problem that the wrong girl talked to me. My fault I stood closer to her both didn't hear me she was the first to lean into me. Anyway I knew before that this HB had a boyfriend, and my friend told me this shortly after out of fear it would provoke an argument etc.
    This was what completely killed my mood. And I just went home. The party was sooo shit anyway.
    Again a boring FR of many wasted opportunities. Damn I used to have make-outs dates and lays.
    Before all this has happened I already came to the conclusion to change my game plan I once tired out an open air party. I went there for like five minutes, the music was fun but the audience too young at least 90% of the audience so i left shortly after I have arrived.
    So here is my new realization:
    I don't want to go out solo anymore. I want to try daygame. My results at the moment are so bad that I will start from zero anyway. So this is what I will do.
    No staying up late, but wandering through malls and the city and trying to have the courage and game that way.
    I will try the demonic confidence and style life challange at once.


    - Daygame
    A - Forcing IOI's
    B - N/A
    - Solo Clubbing
    A - At least staying 1,5 hours if the party is acceptable <- archived
    B - Opening Situational
    C - N/A
    - Club Sarging
    A - Opening at least 5 sets
    B - Opening direct
    C - N/A
    - Social Circle

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    Log time no hear,
    I tried to do daygame countless times, but by now I failed, I have not the guts to approach.
    Next time I will just jump in and say hi, and then if it feels strange I will just apologize with: "Whoops I have mixed you up. sry"
    Is daygame is just so tough? Or is it just in my head?
    I must be brave, If I can do this, I think I can do what maybe 95% of all other
    males, at least in my country are too scared to do.

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    Wow my blog slipped to page two. So long I have not posted

    What happened? I almost never got out.
    Once I was out with a female friend on a almost empty club, and I did not open there, there was one possibility. This felt bad, but I am usually not in an opening mood when going out with her.
    But this weekend I went out with my boys in a cool club just like old times. And guess what I opened, I had more game than any of my friends. But I must admit my semi natural friend mike who is my biggest competition was not out with us.
    I did not have many sets because the first two did hook. The girls in set one wanted me to stay, the girl in set two did also, and always came back to me. So this persistence kept me from opening more. Like always the club was packed, but targets HB_7 + age 28 - 32 where rare like always.
    Set two was a HB_7 but her friend was a HB_9. I later realized HB_9 was also into me, I opened good even greeted their guy friends. Had good kino from the beginning etc. I did not know how to switch targets from HB_7 to HB_9 because one of their guy friends was always around her hitting on her, or he might even have been her BF, but I highly doubt it. When I tried to KC HB_7 she even said to me: "you should switch to blonde". HB_9 was blond. I was not quite sure what she meant, and I was to stupid to plain and simple ask her about it. I asked her once though but she did now answer.But why did HB_7 always return to me?
    Anyway I was pissed of by her turning my KC attempt down but keeping coming back to me and dance. At the end I left and did not go for the number. Sure I would have wanted to bang her, but somehow her behavior pissed me of. A mistake in retrospect. I can still decide if I want to call her or not. I guess she wanted to play hard to get. But on the other hand might even have handed me over to HB_9. But stupid me got nothing, but I had fun and danced and chatted with girls ....
    Anyway. I feared that I completely tuned back to my AFC - Starting point. And I must say It just feels good to see my club game after such a long time still being alright. Just give me good music good, friends, and a nice club. And let me dance for one or two hours and i will get into a nice mood where i can make things happen and I am sober.
    So why so little sets the last months? The answer depends on the perspective:
    Either I was lucky in the past having so many opportunities to go. Or I just have bad luck now that my friends are all in a relationship, and are not willing to hang out.
    It also is time for a big resume. Because I just have entered the third and last Phase of my 2012 game plan.
    1. First third going out alone
    2. Second going direct
    3. Day Game.


    First Goal: I honestly don't pursue my first goal anymore, I did it a for a good while but i just feel lost with all those kiddies at the usual clubs around..
    Second Goal: Going direct, yes I did it sometimes, and with having almost zero sets the times for going direct are damn rare. But like always I usually go situational, and then add SOI's . Which is not the exactly what I meant when I have defined my goals, Opening direct. However I do it if the girl is eye-fucking me before I open.
    Third Goal: Till now I did not have the balls to stop/open girls during the daytime while shopping in the city. I tried it sooooo many times but I just don't dare it.

    But I tried to improve, I tried to get wings especially for daygame over this Forum. One did not answer after the first contact. The second canceled like 5 Minutes before we should have met. I don't know how legit his reasons are. Maybe I should try again to hook up with him.
    There are some other areas in my live where I am trying to get myself a new social circle and possibilities to meet girls in future, but all this will take some more time...
    Anyway the next three weekends might have potential to go out and meed chicks.

    So you see guys Feudel is not dead, just a little ill :P

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