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    Hey guys, thanks for the comments

    Defiance888, I was def surprised I was getting that many numbers I was expecting more like 1 for 10. I am pretty good looking (not to be a douche, just trying to be honest so you guys know my scenario), I've played sports my whole life so I'm in shape, and I'm about 6 feet tall.

    Also, it's been a loooong time since I've gotton any, so to be honest its possible what looks like an HB7 to me might actually be an HB6 in reality lol.

    As for openers, I always go with "Excuse me, I just saw you from over there, and I thought you looked ridiculously cute, I just had to come over and say hi" (thanks Myzta!) I like the "ridiculously cute" part 'cause you're calling her cute, but calling her ridiculous at the same time so it gives off more of a playful vibe. But yea pcl81 is defiantly right it's all about how you present yourself more than what you actually say.

    And the squirrel text is just "I saw a squirrel today. It reminded me of you " (found this somewhere on this forum, don't remember where). I personally think it's hilarious.

    Also, wondering if it's possible to bridge a whole week with just texts. Since I can only sarge weekends, idk if I should try to call my numbers to talk or just keep texting and call later in the week to try and set up a day 2?

    Lemme know what you guys think



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcgoo View Post
    Hey guys, thanks for the comments

    Defiance888, I was def surprised I was getting that many numbers I was expecting more like 1 for 10. I am pretty good looking (not to be a douche, just trying to be honest so you guys know my scenario), I've played sports my whole life so I'm in shape, and I'm about 6 feet tall.

    Also, it's been a loooong time since I've gotton any, so to be honest its possible what looks like an HB7 to me might actually be an HB6 in reality lol.

    As for openers, I always go with "Excuse me, I just saw you from over there, and I thought you looked ridiculously cute, I just had to come over and say hi" (thanks Myzta!) I like the "ridiculously cute" part 'cause you're calling her cute, but calling her ridiculous at the same time so it gives off more of a playful vibe. But yea pcl81 is defiantly right it's all about how you present yourself more than what you actually say.

    And the squirrel text is just "I saw a squirrel today. It reminded me of you " (found this somewhere on this forum, don't remember where). I personally think it's hilarious.

    Also, wondering if it's possible to bridge a whole week with just texts. Since I can only sarge weekends, idk if I should try to call my numbers to talk or just keep texting and call later in the week to try and set up a day 2?

    Lemme know what you guys think
    Love the honesty dude. Good luck with this. Keep us posted.

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    No expert here but I would say you draw the text convo over time/availability. If she's into you, she might respond quickly. Wait a day or two to respond and go off of that.

    @pcl81 good point i might consider going out a wknd and work on this. btw, i see users are online but is there a IM system this site offers for people to use?

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    So over the course of this week, I've been texting my numbers, here's the details:

    2 stopped responding completely after a while,
    1 responds but gives short answers
    2 respond a lot, but couldn't seem to get a day 2.

    I texted the art girl (who always seemed to be really into me) "So ill be in town this weekend, we shud hang out. Unless ur too busy fingerpainting :P"
    Her: " I don't just fingerpaint!"

    So it seems like she doesn't really want to hang out, otherwise she would have responded to my first text. This surprised me 'cause we've been texting all week, so Idk if I did something wrong or if I just lost momentum because of the week without talking to her. Anyway, I kept texting her after that, ignoring the fact that she ignored my invitation to hang out, so I'll probably try again in a couple days, see what happens.

    Same thing happened with movie maker chick, I texted her "I'll be in town this weekend. We shud get dinner, unless ur too busy accepting an oscar or something "
    Her: Well see. I have to see when i practice and work.

    To me, this sounds like a nice way of saying no. Damn, no day 2s. Looks like I'm just gotta keep working on getting a solid first interaction with more attraction/qualification. Back to the drawing board.

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    Side note, I tried "knock knock" as a text opener. Did horribly. Only 1 of 3 responded and she didn't respond at all to the punchline...

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    Day 4

    Approaches: 6
    -Moving Sets: 3
    -Stationary Sets: 3
    -2+ Sets: 0

    Number Closes: 2

    1. HB6 - Walking in Mall.
    Said "I think I'm older than you think I am." I said 23? She said no 26. Seemed annoyed that a 20 year old was talking to her. Got to go.

    2. HB8 – Walking in Mall.
    Right after my opener, says "ummm I'm underage" and walks away. I would've put her at 19. Man I suck at age.

    3. HB7 – Walking in Mall.
    Didn't say anything, just left. I was like daaaamn I just got owned. This is when I realized I was concentrating so much on my body language I wasn't smiling at all.

    4. HB6 - Number Close – Crafts store.
    Real friendly girl. I love friendly people. Anyway, had a pretty good convo with her, though a couple points I started stalling out and was really grasping for threads. This happens pretty often, I think I'll probably start using routines soon. Still got her number, although its probably cause she wasn't that hot.

    5. HB9 – Coffee Shop.
    Had a decent conversation, but just couldn't get into the playful, cocky funny vibe. I kept trying to tease her, and it was defiantly coming off as try hard. Started to pull out my phone and she quickly said "it was nice meeting you" which was defiantly code for "I'm not giving you my number" lol. Anyway, I appreciate her being polite about it.

    6. HB8 - Number Close – Department Store.
    Looked over my notes (yes, I take pua notes) in the car before I went in. Got me kinda pumped up. Approached her and opened probably the best I ever have in terms of body language and vocal confidence. Had a good 10 minute convo, DHVed with my music recording (I LOVE the fact that my major is like an automatic DHV), and she seemed to be giving a couple IOIs. And her friend came, and I handled my first interrupt well! Anyways, got the number, but never qualified, so Idk if it'll stick.

    Thoughts on today:

    Man, this shit has so many ups and downs. Like I went from texting all these girls and feeling like the man to having them flake on dates and getting blown out three times in a row and just feeling like complete shit. Then I get a number close on an HB8 and I feel on top of the world again. Whoever said "It's not how many times you fall down it's how many times you get back up" is so right. I just gotta keep trying to remember that when things are goin bad.

    Todays approaches all had a real lack of cocky funny vibe. Even the one that went especially well, I couldn't get into the playful frame. I think I might start trying some NLP stuff to help me out, but I think to a point, that's just the way it is: sometimes you're in a good mood and sometimes you're not, so you just have to do your best either way.

    Stats Up to This Point

    Approaches: 25
    -Moving Sets: 11
    -Stationary Sets: 14
    -2+ Sets: 0

    Number Closes: 7

    Day 2s: 0

    Kiss Closes: 0

    [SIZE="4"]F Closes: 0[/SI

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    Bro you are awesome. much respect. dont let your successes get you so high and your failures get you so low. focus on the interaction not the outcome. and stop apologizing for you teases its comes off like you have no balls. let them take it the way they want.
    "Real men go direct"

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    Are you just number closing or are you time bridging? Time bridging is when you talk about something specific you are going do to later (drinks, street fair, bowling, etc. -- depends on what the two of you and into) and is more effective than just getting a number and then trying to turn it into a date. The reason for the number is to finalize the plans on the activity you've already discussed.

    If you get enough numbers you can try mass texting like Paul Janka does, although unless you live somewhere like NYC you may not be able to get enough numbers. He just mass texts to all of his new numbers something like "are you free tonight?" and goes from there with the ones who reply.

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    hey man

    i like what you are doing here, best of luck, do you approach girls walking by themselves or do you groups of 2 ?

    today i was out in town center (im in uk) and was walking around looking for sets to do, i was wearing shades so i could look without being cought (lol) i noticed this hot blondie id say hb8 walking with her bf tottaly checking me out, so that gave me a confidence boost, but i just cant seem to approach, there were few that i wanted to open to and im thinking like 'okay go, do it, go do it' and in the end i didnt do it lmao, i hate myself for that i guess ill just have to stop thinking about it and just do it like nike lol. oh btw i liked that line you used about buyign a house with no doors or stairs, seriously gave a chuckle at that one haha

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    Thanks for the comments guys

    Majestic, thanks and yea I agree it's def better to stay even keel than to let your emotions get to you. And yea, I'm trying to break out of "nice guy" mode. I'm seriously debating going out and saying "I fuckin hate your shoes" and walking away to like 10 chicks.

    SmoothOperator, I'm still working on just keeping the conversation going and trying to build some kind of attraction at this point, so I don't think I'll be able to seed my conversation with potential dates until I improve my conversation skills. But defiantly a skill I'll have to learn in the future.

    Big daddyx, first of all, like the sunglasses idea might have to steal that. And I've only approached girls by themselves, I'm still trying to work up the balls to approach 2 sets. And yea I defiantly know how you feel with the approach anxiety. The first time ever I went out I walked around the mall for two hours before I even said hi to a girl. It's just one of those things you have to learn to deal with. I think of it like a workout, it's not comfortable when you're running laps around the track, but you just do it anyway to improve yourself. Also, you can try building up to an approach by just saying hi to 10 people that walk past (any people, not just chicks), then ask 10 people for the time (say "I lost my phone" to make it less alkward) and then go in to your first set. Hope that helps.

    Here's day 5...

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