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01-15-2012, 08:05 AM #101
Update: I went out on a date with the tall Asian girl that I instant date more than a week ago. I didn't feel very loose in the beginning, but once both of us loosened up, we had a great time. We got along pretty well. We have similar values. It's such a wonderful feeling to spend time with someone you truly find attractive, kinoing her, and everything. I really like the girls that I have met through direct day game. They are all very nice girls. I also think direct game is such a powerful masculine approach that it really brings out the feminine essence in girls. At the end of the night I invited her into my place, but she turned me down. Which was fine.
Yesterday I had a busier day, so I went to the mall knowing I only have about 2 hours to sarge. I saw bunch of guys who look like community guys that were approaching everywhere. I totally threw me off. I started having internal thoughts about who these girls gonna get over sarged, and when I approach they gonna say, "You said that to me earlier..."
Fortunately my approach habit kicked in...
HB FOB asian - no english
HB Eastern Europe - thanksed me. I held her hand a bit longer.
HB Married with a nice ass - very appreciative. I joked with her about how big her rock is, and I could've missed it, and I can never compete with her rich husband.
HB Model - perfect face. She was with other models earlier, but she was the best looking one. I approached from the front which was a bad angle, she gave me a dirty blow out. Ouch. It's good to get those once in a while. It makes you human.
HB Banging blonde - Again, reasonable response. But I just could not transition strongly. I'll have to write about it in my summary.
HB Banging body Persian - I saw the back of this girl with amazing ass and legs at H&M. I opened her with, "Excuse me, I saw you as I was about to leave, and I though you looked..." I didn't even finish the sentence. I just looked up and down her body, she was wearing tight legging, and every curve of her body was showing. She knew what I meant, and was totally flatter. After a few minutes of good conversation, she started looking around. I asked her if she's with someone...blah, blah. I found out she has a boyfriend.. no close.
HB Cute White girl - I opened this girl and for 5 seconds she didn't get what I was saying. Finally when it sank in, she was like OMG. Seh told me she lived with her BF, but I made her day
HB Asian Model - I approached this moving set knowing she maybe kind of young. She was super cute when she turned around. Blah, blah... she's a model. She's definitely hot enough, and has amazing body, but she was wearing really high heels. She's probably 5'7, 5'8 so I don't believe she's an international model. She's probably just some struggling local model. I should have played hardball with her, but my transition game sucked today. I had to let this one go....
HB Stripper Body - I left the mall. Before going to the parking garage, I saw a hot girl at the corner. I approached her. I tried using Soul's routine about her trying to get guys to come talk to her. It fell totally flat. Eject.
Summary: I made a total of 9 approaches in 2 hours. I was happy with that. I'll give my self credit for 8 since 2 of the approaches didn't even lead to a exchange of name. I was benefited by there having more single girls today. I was still proud of my effort considering I had to deal with the distraction of other guys sarging.
My problem today was dealing with the yellow lights. Neil Strauss said when you opened a girl, you get Green, Yellow, of Red light.
Green - great, you have a good chance of getting a solid # right off the bat.
Red - you have no chance, the girl total ignores you, you cannot recover from it.
Yellow - this is where the masters separate themselves from the guys who are just playing numbers game. I still don't have the knack of spinning attraction, intrigue, maybe dominance?? to get the ball rolling. There were at least 4 girls today that have not mentioned BF, that I could have taken the conversation further. I am not sure if it's a body language, sub-communication, verbal game issue. I am also terrible at incorporating routines. It always seems awkward. I think I try spinning some story to see if it hooks then, maybe some kino...
01-15-2012, 02:59 PM #102
I'm glad that you're approaching, but don't you think that you should stop using routines? They're old and outdated, and natural game is the way to go.
Originally Posted by Project X
01-26-2012, 06:07 PM #103
Wow, it's been 11 days since I have posted in my journal. A lot has happened, but at the same time I am feeling lazy, sitting in front of the computer not wanting to go out to meet girls.
I went on a second date with the tall Asian girl. We had a good time. This time I invited her back to my place at the end of night, and she agreed. I showed her around my place a little more. We ended up spending a bit of time together. She said she really wanted to stay longer, but had to get up early for work tomorrow. We've been texting back and forth a bit trying to iron out the logistic for out next date. The text exchange is getting too logical. If we don't come up with a mutually convenient day soon, I think I need to go back to more fun attraction text/phone before trying to ask her out again.
I also went on a day2 with the FOB girl. She's pretty playful, and kino me early in the interaction. The bar I wanted to go was closed, and we had to walk to another bar. She put her arm around me instantly. At the end of the night she was pretty liquored up. I drove her back to my place under the pretense of trying this chocolate cake that I have. We spent sometime together, but in the end she said, "not tonight." I am not sure about this girl since we have a language barrier. She obviously like me, at least when she drinks lol...
I have been gone for a few days for work/vacation in Maui. I was excited to run some day game, and hopefully get some action. Unfortunately when I got there, I realized Maui is a very low key resort island. It was not heavily populated, and most of the vacationer were couples and families. I could have done better, but I gave it a good go.
HB NewAge - This was my first real approach. Earlier, I was asking for directions and questions about the places to visit. I opened this girl the same way. It's pretty easy as a tourist to open indirect and transition to where I am visiting from etc. We got into a few mastery topics right a way. I sat myself down, and we talked for a while. It wasn't a very flirty conversation, but I felt comfortable, and I could tell she did also. She finally said she had to go, and I asked her how we can keep in touch. She told me she'll be coming back to this part of the island again tomorrow. We exchanged contact info and parted our ways... to be cont'
I made another approach at the beach. I started asking too many questions, and it bombed.
HB Young Asian Girls - Next day I went looking for a snorkeling spot near by. As I parked the car and walked onto the beach, I saw a group of 3 Asian girls sitting looking out at the beach. They had fins and masks around.
PX to the older woman - Did you see anything?
She didn't answer. Later I found out she was the mom lol.
Young girl - No, she hasn't gone in yet.
PX - you guys look like trust worthy people (the girls laughed). Can you watch my stuff while I go into the water.
I went snorkeling for a bit and came back. I chatted with the girls for a bit. Then 2 of their friends came back. One of them was pretty hot. There was a break where I wandered off again. When I came back, they were still there, and I started talking to the hot girl. I teased her a bit, and I could tell she was attracted. She kept on yapping, and try to tell me everything about the island, drawing a map on the sand. This is when I f-ed up. I really wanted to pee at this time, and I had no clue what to do with 4 girls and a mom. Some of them might be under aged. I was pretty sure 3 out 4 has to be over 18. Anyways, instead of gathering logistics, figureing out where they are staying, if they are old enough to go out, I pussed out and left. I could tell the hot girl was kind of disappointed.
Later that day I texted HB NewAge, and she didn't response. 2 hours later I called her, and she texted me back that she'll be done with work in an hour. I went to the internet cafe to kill some time, and she finally called. She told me she doesn't have much time, but was ok to meet up for a quick dinner or drink.
I waited for her at an intersection, and I was chatting with some old man from my hotel. She came up to me from the back, I turned around, and she gave me a big hug. I think talking to the old man was good. It showed that I am social and friendly to everyone.
We went to a seafood restaurant since I wanted to eat some good fish. This where I f-ed up. I felt the whole interaction was very friendly and platonic. We came up to a 4 person table, and I could have sat next to her facing the same direction. Instead, I felt weird, and sat across from her. We had a good conversation, but not too flirty and no kino due to the way we sat. I also realized she didn't really have to go early because after we were done eating she kept talking. Somehow we got to the subject of me showing her my hotel. She agreed, and I got her back to my hotel room. Unfortunately, there was nothing physical all night, and now it's just awkward with her stand at the door of my hotel room talking. She really wanted to meet up the next day for breakfast, but I couldn't because of work. Argghh... we exchanged FB, etc. Another one slipped by.....Arrrgghh...
HB J-Girl The rest of trip was unremarkable, but I wanted to write about this unusual approach.
I went to another snorkeling spot the next day. After snorkeling I was gathering my stuff to leave, and this sexy Japanese girl walked out of the water. She took off her fins, and as she walked up to me she took off her mask and smiled at me as she walked by. Her hair was wet, and she had a nice rack protruding out of her small wet suit top. I turned around to check out her ass as she walked off.. nice.
F-it, I am gonna go for it. She was about 20 yards ahead of me, but I got my stuff, and walked after her. I knew she was walking back to her car which is a quarter mile away from the water, but she was heading down a different road from where I was parked. I followed her, and slowly catching up to her. Keep in mind she is in this densely wooded area walking down a dirt path with a guy following her.
We were both stumbling a bit in out flip-flops. As I got close to her, I said, "It's kind of hard walking in these shoes huh?"
She turned around and laughed. We started talking as we trekked back to the car. We talked about her vacation, where she's staying, etc. Again, I did not have the killer instinct. I know it's a long shot, but I wanted to ask her if she's traveling alone. If she was, I could have asked her to have dinner in my town, which was on the way back to the city where she was staying. Man, I copped out again. We just said goodbye to each other.
It's obvious I lack killer instinct. I enjoy riding the high of a good interaction and didn't want to risk bursting the bubble by going for a challenging close that may cause a bad/awkward reaction.
I think I need to go out couple of times and just aim to get shot down, blown out, embarrassed.
Another issue is that like Paul Jenka said, I didn't bring the sex forward. This is related to the first issue where I didn't want to risk a bad interaction so I played off as a nice friendly guy. If I bring out the sexuality either verbally or non-verbally early on, and the girl decide to stay with the interaction, then it becomes congruent, and easier for me to escalate.
These are just my thoughts for now. I was happy that I had a nice dinner with a cool girl in a tropical island. The other nights where I was eating out alone, it got kind of depressing especially when there were so many vacationing couples around.
02-06-2012, 07:23 PM #104
I was super busy last week. I went out with 3 girls. 1 was from night game. I was up late with the 2 girls I met from day game . I feel totally sleep deprived. I actually get along with one of the girls really well. If it wasn't for the pursuit of mastering the game, I would be totally fine just being in a relationship for a bit.
Statistics - 2 closes out of ~ 350 approaches since I started this journal lol. At least I know it's possible.
It's great to get a little bit of success. The draw back is that I have lost some of the hunger for the hunt.
I went to Trader Joe's first. Super crowded and very few HBs. I still have not worked up the nerve to approach when there are literally by-standers 2-3 feet away.
I bought my grocery and went to Target. My first 2 approaches at Target were blow-outs. I tighten up my body language and was fortunate to get 2 more approaches in. The last 2 went better. I got into a short little conversation with both girls.
I decide to set a goal to approaches 2 group sets. Right now, for the most part I only approach singles.
The mall was super empty probably because of Superbowl. Eventually I got in 3 approaches, all singles. I passed on 2 sets of 2 girls at the food court. I was still too nervous to go in when there are other people sitting at the next table. One of the 2 sets looked like those Laguna Beach girls. They were tall, blonde, very young looking - the type that intimidate me the most.
Anyways, after almost 2 hours, I spotted another 2 sets of tall blondes. F-it it, I started going after them, but they kept going down the escalator. I was totally stalking them for like 10 minutes. I finally caught up with them, and opened direct. I was glad the one I opened was the hotter one. She was surprisingly friendly despite my stalking lol. I got the bf objection when I went for the close.
Right now I can potentially have 3 girls in my rotation, but I am thinking I want to dedicate my effort in improving my skills. Mmmm... maybe there is a way to keep flirting through text, keep things warm, without having to see some of these girls.
I am trying to think through this. I'll probably just focus on 2 girls. I am not that attracted to the FOB asian girl, although she has a pretty tight body. My usual habit is to burn the bridge, but just as an exercise, this time I will use minimal effort and still try to maintain a relationship.
Regarding my opening game. I still need a lot of work. I still get nervous, run out of things to say. Yeah, I need to improve my skills rather than just feeding on some mediocre girl.
02-15-2012, 08:35 PM #105
I spent my entire weekend with the 2 girls I met from day game. I am officially gonna ditch the FOB girl. No chemistry, and I don't need her for sex. The other girl, I'll call her for the time being my primary. She is awesome. I think I screwed up when I totally forgot about valentine's day. She's being a little difficult now. I think her girlfriends are feeding her some anti-guy advices. Last time she told me, her GF told her to cancel on me at the last minute. So many variables to deal with. If she fades out, I will be sad. At the same time, I'll have more hunger, and free time to work on my game.
I only made 4 approaches this week.
Monday, at the bookstore....
I opened with, "Hey, I just saw you readinging here, and I am just curious... what you are like."
She started opening up telling me about herself. Since it's my first approach in over a week, I felt very rusty. She actually carried a good 50% of the conversation. Near the end of the interaction I asked:
"So, tomorrow is Valentine's day. Any plans?"
She was funny. She actually told me about some plan to sit at home, drink wine, and watch a movie by herself. At that time, I know I have a pretty clear shot at the goal. In the end, when I asked her for her number, she entered her whole name in my phone.
The next 3 approaches were blow-outs. One hardly spoke any English.
I have a very busy schedule so I actually texted HB Brunette today to meet up tonight. Initially she agreed, but then she came up with some weird excuse.
FYI - the "come meet at my place and we'll go to this near by bar" tactic need to be used with caution. I think I came across too pushy where I started going into the logistics/ texting her my address etc. without much rapport. My suspicion is that she got scared off.
Right now I have the dilemma of working on my game or staying with one girl. I think this will all play out. I still like to make 5-10 approaches a week. If my primary girl drops off, I will miss her dearly.
I am not sure how the instructors manage this. Before when I hook up with girls I don't care about, they don't occupy my mental energy. I will go out and hit on other girls without a second thought. It's not exactly oneitis because I don't think she's the perfect girl for me, but it sure is nice to just hang out with her, drink coffee in the morning, joke around and kill time.
03-05-2012, 09:03 PM #106
I've been seeing the Asian girl I met earlier this year. We get along really well although she kind of backed off a little. I let her know that we are just dating, nothing serious right now. I think it would be very selfish of me to want 100% of her affection while I only give her a fraction of mine.
I went on 1 date with HB Brunette I met at the bookstore almost 3 weeks ago. She has an average cute face, but she has the kind of body I like - tall, thin but not bony, and she has a nice set of rack!!! We had a fun date but no kiss. It was too much friendly conversation. It has been hard to get hold of her. I don't think the attraction is that strong. We'll see....
I am also seeing a girl I met from night game. Physically I like her look - tall, thin, nice breasts, but her personality just kind of irritates me. Also she doesn't seem DFT. I see some positive things in her, but from now on I am just gonna ask her to come over and save me the trouble of driving to see her.
Overall this is the most active I've been dating in my life. For the past month at least one night, sometimes 2 or 3 nights a week I am on a date.
But enough of resting on my comfortable laurel, onward to more challenges....
Yesterday I went to the mall for some shopping, and approaches...
I made most of my approaches as I was walking from one shopping destination to another. I was pleased with that since I wasn't really prowling the mall for target. I just got interrupted a lot, and had to double back a lot because of the approaches so it took a while for me to walk from one end of the mall to the other lol.
2 harsh blow-outs that I won't write up.
HB Columbian - I saw this girl with features like Alessandra Ambrosio from Victoria's Secret. When I caught up with her, she was still pretty damn hot up close. She was very flattered, but had a BF.
HB NiceBootsAss - Man, I kept following this girl from the back because I was mesmerized by her nice ass and legs. She was also wearing these really cool boots. I finally caught up with her. She was very flattered, but I could not hold strong. Somehow with a lot of moving sets, in the back of my mind, I keep thinking "she need to go, she needs to go, let her go." If I held my ground, I think I could have had a good interaction.
There was another very sweet girl that I approached, but she was waiting for her BF.
HBLostInNewCity - I saw this well dressed girl wandering slowly in and out of stores. I totally stalked her for 10 minutes. I has a gut feeling she might be a tourist traveling alone. When I finally approached her, I found out she just moved here like a month ago. This should have been an easy close as she asked me for my card. It's stupid, I should carry my bushiness card along with number closing her. We exchanged number, before I really qualified her. I wanted to experiment with setting up a date right there, but the interaction was not at that level yet. Even though I got her number, I felt I could have done a much more solid job. I think I came across too eager. I should have instant dated her also instead of just getting a number. Oh well. I'll txt or call her on Wednesday and see if she comes out.
There are still so many simple technicalities that I made mistake on. For example - when I deliver my opener, and the girl reacted with a weird look, my opener kind of trails off into an apologetic laugh/smile/grin - NOT GOOD.
I want a more even none rapport seeking tonality.
Also I want to qualify early. No more fluff conversation. Qualify hard from the beginning, calibrate the girl's comfort level. If she felt cornered and uneasy, then I will back off/joke/fluff then go back to qualifying.
I also forget to set-up a date for the same night (*reminder to do this in the future).
I am thinking of enforcing an approach quota on myself a gain. I think when I had a quota, I was more productive. Sure, sometimes it felt like a lot of work, but at the end of the week, I felt more accomplished.
I really want to get good at this skill set. Right now it still feels like I ride my state. If I am in good state, my game cruises. If not, I have no way of recovering it. Is that I don't really have control over my skills...
I am heading off to a couple of weeks of break to see my folks and a short vacation. But the game will go on!!!
04-01-2012, 01:57 AM #107
I just came back from vacation in Asia. It was way too short. I think if I had more days off, I could have picked up some girl for a romantic memories in an exotic locale.
I started off my vacation with 2 guy friends, but they wanted to spend too much time in a seedy city for some easy semi-professional girls. That wasn't my scene so I took off and flew to a nice beach island by myself.
I checked in a hostel, and went off to the beach by myself.
HB Blonde 2 Sets - I walked up and down the beach, just soaking in the afternoon sun, and enjoying the scenery. There were some girls, guys, but most of them were lounging in a cabana. I was in vacation mode, and I did not have any goal to approach. Eventually I saw 2 blondes lying on their beach towels, and I just went up and approached direct. I guessed correctly that they are from Sweden. Both girls have pretty hot body. The prettier girl was definitely intrigued, but the other one was giving me Sh-t test. I am still not that good with 2 sets, so I felt uneasy with the sh-t test and I ejected.
HB Russian - After a little while, the sun started setting. It was beautiful, and everyone was checking out the sunset. As the sun went under the horizon, I saw this blonde walked pass me, and stopped about 10 yards behind me. I looked back, and she was watching the sunset too. I walked back towards her and opened direct. She gave me a weird look, but I kept talking. She didn't seem that friendly at first, but I lead the conversation, and we started walking back in the direction of the town. At some point she asked if I am going out dancing tonight. We exchanged numbers on our cheap local cell phones. She said she'll call me if she goes out with her friends. We parted ways eventually. She seemed distracted so I didn't want to stick with her too long.
Later that evening, the guys at the hostel didn't seem that enthusiastic about going out, so I left by myself to explore the night life. I went into an Aussie bar with happy hour special and got myself a drink and texted the Russian girl - "Hey! I am at XXX bar, come out and join me." No response so I approached a 2 set Aussie girl. I finished my drink and took off. I checked my phone and the Russian girl texted back wanted to meet up. To make the long story short, we met up for a drink. She was much more enthusiastic when we met. She gave me a big hug. We then went dancing at a club. I started dirty dancing with her, and this is when things went south. She said I was dancing too close to her. When she said that I grabbed her closer, but I really was kind of taken aback. Eventually I let her go. After that we danced some more and she wanted to go back to sleep. I was frustrated to say the least. She was a very pretty girl. I walked her back on a long irritating walk with a lot of traffic, and gave her a peck on the lip for good night.
HB Russian 2 Set My last night on the island my buddies flew in to join me, but they were too tired so I went down to the restaurant by myself. By this time I have moved to a hotel. I finished my dinner, but I could see several table down that a girl was standing up to take pictures. I planned going back to my room, but as I passed by I saw it was 2 girls. I kept walking, but then I told myself, come on man, just do it. I walked back and opened them direct. One of the Russian girl spoke English very well, the other girl was very pretty, but did not speak much. We had a nice conversation, but the mosquitoes were killing me. I invited them to come out for a drink, but they said it was their first night so they are tired. We exchanged e-mail, and the chatty girl said she will show me around when I go to Moscow.
Goddam!!! Why can't I pull off a lay. The restaurant was beautiful, over looking the ocean. They had a nice bottle of wine on their table. Man, I would have loved to ravage them Javier Bardam style in Vicky Cristina Barcelona. Damn mosquitoes!!!
Anyways, that was my vacation. I also FB close 2 girls from Switzerland in McDonald 5 o'clock in the morning. They were drunk and obnoxious. I waved them over to eat with me and they ate all my fries.
I will cross post this in the General sections. I really want to figure out how to get laid while on vacation????
05-07-2012, 10:39 PM #108
I have read this entire thread, first of all I have to say your dedication and balls is brilliant, most of the time you go out alone and daygame which is not an easy thing to do. You haven't updated in a while so I would just like to encourage you to stick with it, if that's at all possible. A big mistake a lot of guys make is they game with a lot of dedication when they have no poon, but when they get regular sex it kind of doesn't make sense to go out and game. The brain makes the logical decision: painful blowouts vs pleasurable sex - which one am I gonna choose... Of course it's nice for a while to get it out of your system - relaxing oily massages, banging every day etc., but after a while banging the same girl(s) becomes depressing and if you stay out of the game for too long, a lot of your progress gets lost. (Luckily, game has something like "muscle memory" where it's much quicker and easier to get back to the level you once were, as opposed to someone who had never been at that level before). In short, if you want to be a true pimp with the hottest girls, keep going. Easier said than done I know, but I feel you haven't got enough encouragement here.
A couple recurring themes I'm seeing throughout your approaches:
1. Way too high amount of BF objections. True, a lot of girls have BFs, but a lot of them don't. You are right in that girls who give the objection when you open have a much higher chance of lying / shit testing than if at the end - going for the number, date or whatever. But in all these cases, when you open or go for a number/date, there are too many BF objections. Sometimes it's just a shit test / resistance but a lot of the time it's because there is something wrong. Whether it's your fashion, grooming, your general vibe , happiness, body language etc., that can only be seen by a day game expert watching you and listening to you in field. Even something as subtle as the shift in your eyes when you talk to a girl, your energy when walking/talking , can be felt by a girl. They have much higher social intelligence (inherent) than us males. After all they are designed to weed out low status males who are "lying" in order to obtain pussy. I think there is something wrong here. Now, in the cases where the BF objection at the end is genuine, for most girls, giving out her number to a random guy is seen as something that society deems as leading to something sexual or with sexual connotations. That's why you may encounter resistance at that point. Instead of just going for the number there, try to make it an instant date instead, but frame it as casually as possible. Going for a coffee, hell, sitting down on a bench nearby to chat, walking through the park, whatever. Strangely enough, even though this is a date (and you know it) , it can often be easier as she feels she is just chatting to someone, not doing anything that will lead to anything sexual. Ironically, in day game instant dates are the best way to progress a relationship fast, phone numbers are a distant distant second.
2. That comes to my second point. Instead of going for phone numbers as your goal, make your goal instant dates. Phone numbers should only be taken as a last resort if she genuinely has to go. Frame getting a phone number in this case as something like, well I would like to continue this conversation, but if you're in a rush I understand - what's the best way of keeping in contact? In all other cases, push for the instant date. It takes you from being a random guy who approached her on the street, to a real person, if you do it right. Even if you're really attractive, and attracted her in the 2 minutes you talked on the street, she will probably find a million reasons not to see you again and hence flake. If you get an instant date and make a CONNECTION with her, she will actively want to see you again.
By the way, I couldn't believe the times when a girl is completely not busy, almost begging you to take her on an instant date, and yet you didn't do it! We're all guilty of leaving sets too early, but let this be a reminder. You go through all the shit interactions, blowouts, to get to the good ones which lead to dates. If you have a reasonably good, masculine vibe and connect with her, all you need is logistics to have sex. A lot of the time you're not even giving yourself the chance to connect with her or try to take her home.
3. This comes to my third point. From your FRs it seems that you're not connecting with these girls. Maybe it's because a lot of your interactions are short, but even from the dates you've been on, it seems that you're just going on them so that you can build comfort and have sex with them. But the comfort phase is misleading, I think Love systems has renamed it to 'connection' which is much more accurate. You can't just sit there and have lame conversation to make her comfortable with you, so that she will have sex eventually. You could do that for 100 hours, assuming the friend zone didn't exist, she would still not want to have sex with you. Women see sex as a bigger deal than men, in most sober women, an emotional connection of some sort is required. It also seems like you're somewhat apathetic of these women's personalities, that you couldn't like them for who they are on a deep, genuine level. I know what you feel as a lot of hot women are dumb, but you've got to find something, even if you're kidding yourself a lot of the time, that builds a connection that she perceives as real. Sometimes, when I am forming a relationship with a girl, even I 'feel' the connection that I create even though it is an illusion that I purposely made between us, because I have trained myself to believe that this girl has a good heart and is special (even though reality is most girls are just average). I'm not telling you to become a chode, I'm telling you to appreciate things about a girl's spirit/soul as a high value man who is genuinely impressed and slightly moved by that. Even if it is fabricated, create a passionate love between you that you know she feels. All you have to do is get her in a private place and she will want to bang you far more than you want her.
4. Finally, speaking of private places and banging. You need to be a lot more ruthless in your escalation. Women want to be touched and want to have sex. Of course it must be always consensual. But you may have a deep fear that you might be too aggressive if you try to push for it, which has led you to go way too far the other way. In your FRs there have been far too many instances of you not pushing the interaction forward, whether in terms of instant date or going home to have sex (physical/logistical progression). Remember that girl who you kissed goodnight and didn't want to see you again? If you had just pushed things you may have got her home and you may have banged her. Instead you got a little kiss goodnight and deep down she lost respect for you. A woman doesn't mind a guy who she knows CAN escalate but genuinely does not wish to, in some cases she can even GAIN respect for such a man who makes HER wait to have sex with him instead of the other way around. In more cases however, it's best to just create a strong connection as fast as possible and escalate as fast and smoothly as possible. If she gives resistance then pull back, turn her on more and try again. In most cases you will get there in the end. A lot of times 'naturals' don't even create that strong a connection, if at all, they are simply good at LOGISTICS (Getting her to a private place) and smooth, ruthless ESCALATION. The girl can 'sense' whether the man has done this before and it's implicit preselection. The opposite of that is going on a date and getting a kiss goodnight. Do not kiss or makeout with a girl unless she is in a private place so that it can lead to sex.
I hope this helped and keep going bro!
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