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    Stoner PUAs?

    Not working for me. I can't be a stoner and a PUA at the same time. I'm just announcing to myself again that I no longer smoke pot.

    I didn't smoke last year for 8 months, life was much better, and had more money.

    No doubt that I'm addicted to pot as bad as any drug addict, even if it's just a mental addiction. I'd been wondering why the night is so different than the night. Like why I would have strong will power in the day, and then when it gets dark, I start craving a joint. I just read in Time magazine that drug addicts do not experience withdrawl until the night. I tried to quit yesterday, but ended up over at a buddy's house smoking a joint at 2am. So I'm going to write up an endless list of tasks to do all night. Here's to day one, again.



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    Ummm, are you sure that time magazine info is accurate, I highly doubt it.

    Think of it this way, you're supplicating to the weed, and that's not cool.

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    Put it this way, MOST people do drugs at night rather than in the daytime. Therefore if thats when YOU usually smoke weed the magazine is right in a way.

    But with weed its mostly a psychologically based withdrawl, and you are conditioned to having that crutch at the same time every night. So when night comes, emotionally you feel uneasy, and that can make you physically feel sick (depending on how much you smoke)

    Ive had to break several addictions in the past, like speed, extacy, and special k. Only because I got in serious trouble with the law and had to do some time.

    Now I can drink socially and don't use recreational drugs at all. Weed I smoked back in the day probaly 4-5 times a day for a good few years but money was never an issue because I was selling other goodies.

    All and all I will tell you this, the first week is the HARDEST, after that it DOES become somewhat easier but chances are you'll have the desire for a while but it WILL go away. You have to commit yourself mentally and ALWAYS have things to do when the desires arises.

    Like when I stopped using drugs I started DJ'n and producin trance music. And it took me a few months to find but honestly sitting down in my studio now is my new morphine now. Once you stop using weed to express yourself you will find other things that will eventually replace it, its the gap in between thats the hardest. G/luck!
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    I misworded it.

    Here's the quote, "Dope sickness, it's the sensation that starts in the night hours of the day you run out of drugs."

    I've "quit," a thousand times, and everytime, I'd be motivated in the daytime, but then at night I'd lose the mature voice in my head, and start making phone calls to get a bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Dollar View Post
    I misworded it.

    Here's the quote, "Dope sickness, it's the sensation that starts in the night hours of the day you run out of drugs."

    I've "quit," a thousand times, and everytime, I'd be motivated in the daytime, but then at night I'd lose the mature voice in my head, and start making phone calls to get a bag.
    Dude first off realize this is WEED your talking about right?
    Drugs that actually have physical withdrawl symptoms all have different withdrawl rates and depends on frequency of use.

    For instance when I stopped using opiates I felt great for the first 48 hours, it wasn't till day 3 when I was heaving my brains out and shitting water every 5 mins, not to mention the unbearable pain around my whole body. It lasted for a good week and it was a nightmare.

    With speed withdrawl starts literally the second it wears off and you start to crash. They say theres no such thing as physical withdrawl from speed, I say thier full of this because I was sick as a dog for a long ass time coming off.

    Heroin you can go a whole day w/out and not feel sick at all, its usually takes about 24 hours before withdrawl kicks in, like you'll wake up the second day and have horrific knots in your stomach, kinda like opiates but they last longer which is why it takes longer for withdrawl to kick in.

    For weed I want you to realize there are MUCH HARDER drugs to get off of.
    THe thing with weed is it appears so innocent sometimes but your not likely to go turning tricks to get bag cause your sick or w/e. You'll just think "ohh a bowl wont really hurt anything" and BAM your smoking again.

    Theres natural and legal drugs you can take if you want to make it easier like Kratom Tea but they are also mildy addictive so beware. If your having a real problem get some off of psychoactiveherbs.com and it will help a TON but make sure you stop using the tea in like a week because it can become habitual, people actually use the same tea for getting off opiates. Go check it out.
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    Going cold turkey is probably the worst way to go. Habits of any kind are hard to break.

    Find brochures, a local Quit phoneline, online information, seek therapy groups etc..

    I'm moving this thread to the Health forum.

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    Thanks for the replies.

    I think that weed is very hard to quit because it does seem like such a harmless drug. Plus, I'm a musician so I'm surrounded by people asking if I want to smoke. I did this before, cold turkey, and it works better for me than slowly quitting. My problem is that once I smoke once, I'm gonna be on the phone the next day buying some, and then it starts out as, "ok, go nuts tonight, and then don't smoke til the weekend." Next thing I know, I've been smoking daily for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Dollar View Post
    Thanks for the replies.

    I think that weed is very hard to quit because it does seem like such a harmless drug. Plus, I'm a musician so I'm surrounded by people asking if I want to smoke. I did this before, cold turkey, and it works better for me than slowly quitting. My problem is that once I smoke once, I'm gonna be on the phone the next day buying some, and then it starts out as, "ok, go nuts tonight, and then don't smoke til the weekend." Next thing I know, I've been smoking daily for months.
    Yeh it seems like you have an obvious issue with weed.
    The fact is if you WANT to not get high bad enough you WONT.

    You really need to be able to see what weed is taking from your life more than just $$$. Like those commercials on TV i personally love. Where the kids are sitting on the sofa and the one kid is off on the side like "I smoked weed today, and nothing bad happened, I didnt die or get shot or killed, I actually just sat on a couch for 11 hours straight with my friends"

    And the moral of the story is sometimes its the things you cant see weed is doing to your life that are the worst. And than it veers off to him saying Id rather do something more dangerous and risky like ask a girl out, and than the camera shows him sobers roller blading with some girl.

    I personally love the commerical because I can relate and totally see all those little blind things weed was taking from my life. The trick is though, you don't see them untill you stop smoking, which is why its so hard. If you could see the REAL you 6 months down the road, the YOU who hasnt smoked weed in 6 months and has stopped hiding from w/e it is weed helps him deal with, if you could see that new you youd stop in an instant.
    But right now he's just a dream, and he'll always be that way untill you choose to make him real.

    Just some food for thought..
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    A Tony Robbins trick: Associate in your mind the most painful things associated with weed. Slacker behaviour, poor cognitive response, lung cancer. Really visualize that you are experiencing those things with a puff.

    Then, later, visualize the benefits of NOT smoking. Better health, better energy, whiter teeth.

    The goal is to try and re-associate smoking and not smoking with the correct long term pain and pleasure. But it takes intense visualization and anchoring of those feelings to get the desired change. Keep at it for several days. When you feel the anxiety of not smoking try and reframe your emotion to one of positive thought. Hope this helps and good luck!

    And you might try talking to a doctor too.

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    Some people can do it, some people cant. I know people who get blazed and are quite smooth. My friend realized he needed to stop smoking weed when he went out because he wouldnt talk to anybody or wouldnt say much.

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