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    I think Love Systems is misunderstood. How can the company be adequately shown off in a 5 minute clip? How can it advertise what the company is about, the community that exists here, the knowledge, the progressive tools at work and the evolving methods of attracting girls and maintaining relationships with them?



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    Hey Guys !

    first of all i just wanna thank Love Systems for everything!! u guys are really great.
    i wanna tell u guys a short story of today:
    first i met that girl through a very good friend (girl) of me at a party and we had really much fun, and met again on another party, both parties were so fuckin awesome and we laughed so much and really enjoyed it, but both times i didnt come to the point were we could makin out, so i didnt kiss her yet.
    but now she began to text me and i used the thing said in the text and phone game book of Love Systems. its unbelievable how that helped me, even when the conversation seemed to get boring and we both just sent 3-4 words in a text. i used some stuff out of the book and turned the conversation.

    in the 6th or 7th text she asked me: "we should go out together soon! ))))"
    im just so happy and i know that Love Systems works, but that is just a really great proof! i know if u read this short summary it doesnt seem spectacular, but when u read the whole conversation its really hot !

    and then i hear stuff like the mails after the abc news.
    i cant understand these guys!

    i mean, Love Systems doesnt hurt anyone, it doesnt manipulate anyone.
    they help men AND WOMEN!
    is it bad for a woman when a man come over to her and speak to her? NO it isnt, 1. it gets her some self conscious and 2. if she doesnt wann talk to him she just have to blow him out!
    its nothing bad bout helping the men to help themselves improving there dating life, and they also indirect help the women with there dating life, what does a woman feel if a man do the things Love Systems teach right?! she is happy, she feels good she has fun, what wrong bout that ?

    and whats wrong if a guy whos not lookin like the next mr. universe can get hot girls too ? nothing!
    im sure if the guys who write these hating mails would really think bout there dating and romantic life, they aint happy with everything!
    and even if they are happy with everything, theres no reason to talk bad bout helping guys who are not that good with women!!

    no matter what they say, for me Love System is the best ever could has happened to me the in the last time ! it really changed my life, even im just starting out, and didnt have real results yet, i feeling better, more self conscious and i can see that im improving !

    so thank you guys! thanks to every Love Systems Instructor and Junior Instructor etc.
    just dont think bout what they say, they dont really know what they sayin !

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    Big up to Savoy to having anticipated all traps and gone through it.

    Also, all of you guys got some points.
    But in anyway, that's easy to diss people that are not thinking like you by putting some easy explanation on their behavior and way of thinking, like how they are as persons or so on.
    I don't say that they are right or that it's ok for them to think that in general,
    but it's easy to say that they think this because they are unattractive, unsuccessful, are not smart and so on. The problem being that they could be attractive, successful, smart and not thinking your way. Their only fault being to be closed to others' views and problems.
    In addition, it is easy for us to bash them when we are on our grounds. That's not a great way to deal with them than mock them and send them fuck their shit in hell.
    Better way would be to argue positively.
    And also, arguing here is not much of profit in conquered ground; but reading such posts on the website of ABC and other polemic medias website talking about this "affair" would be better.

    For my part, just thanks to the community for giving me impulse, inspiration and friends to go through it. I was bad like hell, and it gave me keys to grow up and meet women and make them happy, not just with sex but helping them achieving their goals and go through their own problems.
    I always tried to adapt methods to myself and was feeling fake when i was trying to say things that were not true in order to "get in" and not being blown out. It has taken me harder time to finally achieve results but in the end this work has helped me to reveal myself as i had good qualities that i had toned down as moral guardians had made me feeling sick about having desire, about being snarky and smart and assertive, playful and teasing, and so on. It was not really a problem to be gentle and nice for me as i was from the start aside of these qualities, and i was not trying to buy girls by being nice, i didn't even want the girls to love me for that, but actually it gave me nothing but feeling bad, unworthy and clueless. To feel like i was ill fated while i was so nice it was unbalanced and unfair that just jerks (actually, normal guys that didn't bow to everything and respected themselves as much as the girls). To feel like no one would mind if i died.
    That's just past, luckily, and thanks to my friends and taking my life in hands, I am ready now to make what i want, be it having a LTR or meet any number of women that would be pleased by a nice guy that is not just plain nice and boring. Also ready to meet girls and get to know them sincerely and interest myself in them, not only for having sex, but because i think they are outstanding persons, but i even would have been denied that right of not being so sleazy and disgusting but genuinely interested in some girls because i would have screwed myself with behaviors that were not socially smart, and were taught to me by the oh-so-well-thinking-people-that-want-things-to-go-the-right-way-for-people-to-be-happy that have no real clue about the big picture.
    It's not about manipulation, it's just being your best self (and understanding which one this "best self" is among your selves). And yeah, it can seems like you are manipulating people sometimes because you chose to actively do things that "lucky" people that just learned it by practice and good social intuition do to break ice or convey interest or attract without thinking about, but these same "natural" people actually sometimes do it consciously as well. That's a part of the game of seduction. Nothing is bad about it as long as nobody is harmed, and being harmed is not so much about being manipulated that being mistaken about intents of each other.
    But that's a different matter than the matter of seduction. That's about individual ethics. I never promise anything that i can't stand. Girls are never expecting things from me apart of what i show them and apart of the desires we have together.
    Some guys lie about their intents. But most of them had not learn seduction our way. They just did it by themselves. That's a behavior that's not moral, it's not excusable or good, but it is not related to seduction, these people are just egotist in all ways.
    I respect women by not believing that being myself and cool is making them powerless and naive against my charm. I respect them be not denying their desires and the choice they can have to want or not to be seduced (actually, when i go by a girl that is not ok with that, i just enjoy on a non flirty mode with her if i am still interested). I respect them by appreciating the effort some do to be so attractive and beautiful while most of people don't take care of themselves, while not regarding their beauty as the sole factor that can turn me on. I respect women by not making them the insult to believe that they could be interested by men that have nothing to offer them except plain boring things (ok, these things are what make life in general, but you can respect yourself by offering you the occasions to see the word in a better way).
    I was amazing to start with, but i made myself decay by bowing to stereotypes and real lies of "morals" and hollywood romanticism and extreme feminism.
    (Real feminist fight for the rights of women, and it s a good thing, but they are loving men for what they are, they don't try to castrate men). I then had qualities but couldn't express myself or let girls wanting to know more about me and discover all what i could offer them because i was broken by bad rejections from girls that i merely did not please for stupid reasons like being too thin or young (it was back in college, some girls were this way but it's ok, it was the rule) and wrong "morals", and i began believing i was doing wrong and understanding bad rejections because "morals" told me that i was not a good guy (while every girls around me was pleased, even if i was assertive and myself...)

    Thanks to the community for helping me coming back to my old self. And being able to see through the lies i had been told about myself and the world by people that are not so much caring about people than about their nocive ideals and conceptions.
    I am now free, and i understand that there are so much haters because so much of them doesn't want us to be free and self fulfilling and well in our skins, when they are not and preaching for thing that explain their failures in a convenient ways, or because it doesn't allow them to feed us and make us behave like they want.

    Keep doing good works guys.

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    Some posts above are being really judgmental here. They just say: for xxx reasons, xxx is bad. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves and rot in hell.

    Without actually trying it themselves. In fact they probably never met anyone who touched the field of seduction in person.

    As a darwinist, I'd say being judgmental saved our lives numerous times in the past. "we never ate this kind of mushroom before, it could be poisonous, you shouldn't eat it." You shouldn't try, lest you want to risk your own life.

    However, being judgmental in a modern society can be very harmful. Are all girls who look sexy bad girls and you should never consider them wife materials? The answer is obviously no! Does martial arts make a boy a barbarian? No!

    LS would not kill you. If you try it yourself and discover that "Oh, it's bad and amoral, I shouldn't do this." Then you can say it's bad.

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    Claudine you have a point. A majority of the guys in the community are either autistic or sociopaths trying to find a way to get better at getting pussy. If you have a problem with empathy, you will more than likely have problems with social interactions. Magic Bullets is just like this.

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    Here we go again...

    andre3, have you read what people have been saying? If you haven't, then you are probably not going to sound any better than Claudine with her baggage of false beliefs. Read my friend! And only speak later once you get all your facts and information straight. Magic Bullets is an instructional book that focuses on foundations and entry level techniques to improve ones' social interactions with women; it is without a doubt that an advanced book of sorts can supersede Magic Bullets if one were to write it, but so far this is all we have got and it has been serving us really well all this time. You are criticizing a piece of work which you cannot compare to anything else, in which case your criticisms are very biased and unlikely to be supported by many people.
    "If you see a difference between where you are and where you want to be... consciously change your thoughts, words, and actions to match your grandest vision." - Anonymous

    "What would you do with your life if you had no chance of failure? Start doing it now." - Anonymous

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    you wouldn't get nasty emails if the system didn't work.

    end of story

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    With publicity comes critics, always

    I don't know if publicity like this is good or bad for LS. But, just know that whoever sends those negative e-mails; most are probably coming with little or no knowledge of our culture. In fact, they are probably so insecure about themselves that they have to e-mail a random stranger they saw on TV to feel important, which is who we're trying NOT to be tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Electro View Post
    Here we go again...

    andre3, have you read what people have been saying? If you haven't, then you are probably not going to sound any better than Claudine with her baggage of false beliefs. Read my friend! And only speak later once you get all your facts and information straight. Magic Bullets is an instructional book that focuses on foundations and entry level techniques to improve ones' social interactions with women; it is without a doubt that an advanced book of sorts can supersede Magic Bullets if one were to write it, but so far this is all we have got and it has been serving us really well all this time. You are criticizing a piece of work which you cannot compare to anything else, in which case your criticisms are very biased and unlikely to be supported by many people.
    if you knew what i knew then you wouldn't be saying that about your so called heros. most pick up is bullshit, i know this because i was trained by one of the top PUAs. also you woundn't need this shit if you were actually good with women. i had no trouble getting bitch's before becoming a PUA, i lost my virginity to a girl who had a boyfriend and was three years older than me. plus the guy who trained me, said i was a natural when i told him how i used to get girls.

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    Who cares I say

    To be perfectly honest, I dosent bother me at all cause to every great science there is skeptic. To those who say it makes it look slezy, they are just igornant in there statement. In the words of carlos there needs to be more alpha men in this worled. The worled would be a better place. Shit would get done ahah, to the skeptic out ther stay skeptical cause love systems is not a system per say it's a way of life. It turns the weaker men of this worled into men. Witch is a nesisity for our generation To all those who are spreading disrespectful words that's just not cool really because love system has helped me in so meny other ways then just my love life. It teaches you to take life into your own hands and grab life by the ball. And to be honesty it's made me a better man In the process, for that I don't appoligise. In closing let ABC do what ever they want if love systems has tought me any thing it's that in the end if your the better man, your really the better man!!!!!

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