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    Positive Masculinity

    People have been on my ass lately for a new post. Well here it is.

    WARNING: This goes beyond simple pickup. If you are here to get routines and gimmicks, then you will not like the following post. However, if you are here to better your life, and discover all the ways in which you can be the best man you can be, then you may proceed.

    So lately I was browsing around my old threads, and I came across what I consider to be my favorite: http://www.theattractionforums.com/d...96418-man.html . After reading through this, I realized that at the time, I was missing a very important aspect of masculinity. Perhaps the most important part of all!

    You are probably thinking to yourself, “Well Pitts, how could you be so careless?” My apologies, my friends, but it is only something I came to understand very recently. Something that I think most PUAs neglect and most men have no idea about. I am talking about having your own code of conduct, and your own morals with which to live your life by.

    A lot of my friends that I talk to regularly and I have acknowledged that American society does not produce very high quality women, for the most part. Of course, there are gems to be found, but they are, for the most part, rare and hard to find. I believe now that finding a woman in America who represents traditional gender roles, positive femininity, a good character, as well as being moderately attractive, is about as hard as winning the lottery. However this post is not about these women.

    What I am concerned about is the number of PUAs who acknowledge this phenomenon and engage in it. I’m talking about it taking women’s actions and engaging in the same behavior. I know for me, cheating with taken girl, going after your best friend’s girl (even if she comes on to you), or even breaking our own values and creeds in order to get some ass, are considered in poor taste. This is just me, however; you may decide what you find appropriate. Yet you will find men willing to betray their friends, family, values, and themselves, all in order to get a little pussy. Also think of the outcome: If one man cheats, and manipulates a woman to her breaking point, does she not also think to do this with the next guy? We know how easily swayed women are. There is a damn good chance she may. And hence, we have a vicious cycle being born and no wonder low quality women do this to us! They see us doing it all the time. They take their bearings from us. It is time to give them better examples. Women have become so disenfranchised with a lot of men; you can see it all over our society. It is time to take back our roles, ethics, and morality so we can shape our culture the way it is supposed to be.

    The thing that my original post was missing is that you need to have your own code of conduct, and your own morals if you wish to live a fulfilling life. Now stop for a second. I know what you are thinking. You are probably thinking I’m trying to push religious morals on you. I am not. For many centuries, Western men have linked morals to the church, because that was who preached them to you. I AM NOT TRYING TO PUSH RELIGIOUS MORALS. There was a time, back to the Ancient Greeks and Romans where ethics and morals were discussing, separate from the church. I’m saying we return to that time, and take a few lessons from our ancient ancestors.

    The way our society is set up today makes up believe that morals and ethics are what hold us back from living a fulfilling life. They call these “conservative values” and we all know how the current trend in America is to bash the conservatives (Republicans, anyone?). Don’t let yourself be fooled. I’m not saying you have to go convert your political beliefs. I’m saying to develop your own sense of what is right and wrong, and for everyone’s sake, STICK WITH IT.

    If that means not hooking up with buddy’s girl because she totally put her hand on your junk, so be it. If that mean’s not cheating on your woman because, well hell, she is likely to cheat on you, so be it. You decide. It is not for me to tell you what is right or wrong. I am only telling you that you better decide what is, and make sure you don’t go against it.

    The shame about this is that you have many men who say they have morals, yet when opportunity presents itself, they will gladly ‘betray’ their morals in order to somehow get ahead (or some head). However whenever someone actually sticks to their morals, even in the face of adversity, shows a real strength and character that many will admire.

    This trend in America of bashing morals and ethics will not end until we decide to no longer participate in it. We are MEN. We have our ethics and our morals to guide us in life, not to hold us back from it. Leading a life of cheating, manipulation, and falsity because others do it will NOT make you happy. You have to decide. Will you stand up, and be a man, stick up for what you believe in, and refuse to lower yourself to the pettiness of our society, or will you wallow around in the mud with the rest of the animals, afraid to take up your higher calling?

    I give you this choice now: Will you take your knowledge of manhood, and try and better ourselves, so that our posterity has a better world to live in, OR, will you take your knowledge of manhood, and engage in loose morals activity for your own personal gain? In the end, we are leaders. Because we have failed to be proper leaders, our people (women and such) have taken from our cue, and set about doing our improper actions. It is time to stand up, and retake our roles. Get your morals and ethics into gear, because first in foremost, we are MEN, and MEN will lead by example. Stop the petty behavior, and embrace positive masculinity.



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    RSD pushes this so hard, self-being, the core, all that.

    Some good tips are to write yourself out a code of conduct, like.. "I am successful. I live my life everyday to the fullest, I want to bring the best out in people", and so on.

    Tyler Durden said he did this for every 5 minutes, for 30 days straight. He said that results were fucking mind boggling.

    I've come to realize recently, that in order to obtain anything positive (in regards to mindset, overall well-being, masculinity), is to go live life. Write down some hobbies that maybe you lost because you're spending too much time on the forums , or make it your goal to do something EVERYDAY after work, and not just sit around. This clears this mind, so hard.

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    This is more true than ever where I live. It is 100% a college town and I have been here for....going on too damn long now. I see the same type of women, but definitely the same type of "men" (using that term loosely) and it's gotten to the point where it makes me sick. Working at the biggest bar here, I see the worst of it on a weekly basis. Everyone fights, cheats, and treats those around them like shit just to try to come off as a bigger baddass or bitch than the next person.

    I totally agree with what you're saying Pitts. I agree with alot of your posts especially Be A Man and even though I sometimes feel like the outcast trying to be an actual man here I have learned that I will not let it stop me.

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    Two thumbs up man!
    Same kind of thing I harp on to my circle of friends, telling the men to pull their heads out of their asses and the women to hold their men to a higher standard or dump them.
    I am of the firm belief that the deterioration of quality in people in general is a self replicating cycle. Boys cheat on their girls or generally treat them like shit because their fathers were deficient as Men, so the girls mature into needy "crazy" women with issues and either accept bad treatment or treat men poorly, thus the men get jaded and are unmotivated to rise above this and treat the women better than they are getting..and so on and on and on. When my male friends complain about their "crazy woman" I ask what they have done to help her get back under control. They look at me like I am crazy. Someone has to stand up and "Be a Man", so who is first?

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    To some measure, being dishonest has become a fashionable thing to be. There are many times I am sure, in your professional life, there is pressure on you to be dishonest. The tough economic times we live in, you either do what your boss wants or he gets someone else who will. How many people would cancel a night out because their boss asked them to work late. There would be a raft of people willing to do so, you feel pressure to conform.

    A barrier gets breached and once that happens it is difficult to stop - the thing runs like a train as more and more values are broken, each the smallest bit worst than the last.

    Under the last UK government, we had a system of situational ethics. As time goes by previous standards and values were changed to make them more contemporary. This has a benefit insofar as we no longer put people in workhouses or stone people for a different beliefs, however, once you start this process it is impossible to stop - very serious crime is being justified by 'stress' and 'circumstances' You lose the whole legal framework as punishments are out of synch.

    It gives the control for setting the ethical standard on politicians who had thier own motives - they could then fashion these to make them suited to what they wanted to achieve.

    Again, you are right when you say its fair for people make their own rules, but stick to it. Its the discipline that counts, that has become a dirty word in Western culture (or has been twisted)

    If the reason why you seduce someone elses girlfriend is because she is in an unhappy relationship, you may decide that is one of your rules. People who know me/wing with me, know my rules regarding who I approach, seduce. This leads to one or two missed opportunities - but its rules and not an excuse. I would be more concerned if I started breaking rules when there were few sets to approach.

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    While I agree with the general point, my code of ethics says that this post has a sexist undertone:

    Quote Originally Posted by CMPitts View Post
    A lot of my friends that I talk to regularly and I have acknowledged that American society does not produce very high quality women, for the most part. Of course, there are gems to be found, but they are, for the most part, rare and hard to find. I believe now that finding a woman in America who represents traditional gender roles, positive femininity, a good character, as well as being moderately attractive, is about as hard as winning the lottery. ... Because we have failed to be proper leaders, our people (women and such) have taken from our cue, and set about doing our improper actions. It is time to stand up, and retake our roles.
    Virtually all the women I know are good, decent, honest people. In the U.S. today, more women are going to college than ever before. In fact, today women substantially outnumber men at U.S. universities. Look at the gender ratios at U.S. universities, and then contrast it with the gender ratios in the U.S. prison system. It's not the women who are lacking in quality. It's the men.

    I do, however, echo your call to banish the word "slut" from our vocabulary. If a woman has sex with lots of men, she's called a slut and it's an insult. If a man has sex with lots of women, he's called a stud and it's a compliment. That's sexist. "Bitch", "whore", "ho", etc. should also be banished.
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    B Mr Right with all due respect I think that you confuse what CM says. Being good, decent, honest and educated has nothing to do with your ability to follow your gender's role. I also know men that are all the things you said yet when it comes to women they are pussy whipped and submissive as hell. Education especially in most cases is just a parent's gift to the child through his affordability of a university. It has virtually nothing to do with the kid's personality except for his grades probably but that's again talking with exceptions and not rules.

    I do disagree with one thing with CM though. The whole confusion with the gender rules is global rather than an American stereotype nowdays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverghost View Post
    Being good, decent, honest and educated has nothing to do with your ability to follow your gender's role.
    I challenge you guys to specifically list which gender roles (American) WOMEN are failing to follow. (e.g. Are they not subservient enough to you? Is that what you mean?) Please, give me an itemized list of what makes them low quality WOMEN.

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    Education especially in most cases is just a parent's gift to the child through his affordability of a university. It has virtually nothing to do with the kid's personality except for his grades probably but that's again talking with exceptions and not rules.
    Sorry, but this doesn't explain the gender ratios at U.S. universities unless you are trying to suggest that wealthier people are more likely to have daughters. Also, I don't know about Greece, but in the U.S. government-backed student loans and public universities make college affordable to the vast majority of the population. Community colleges are affordable to just about everyone, especially if they attend part-time.
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    As usual, silverghost tends to word things better than I could if I tried. Thanks bro.

    As for my post, you are correct, there are sexist undertones. But I am referring to the way men are failing, that is causing our women to be led astray. I am coming down on both sexes equally in this post, the way it ought to be. Because both sides are fucked up, where 80% don't have basic intelligence or know proper gender roles. This is also a global thing (thanks silver ).

    If a woman has sex with lots of men, she's called a slut and it's an insult. If a man has sex with lots of women, he's called a stud and it's a compliment. That's sexist.
    As for this, the woman is a slut because it doesn't take any skill for her to spread her legs, whereas it does for a man to bed that many women. Also think of it from this angle: The key and lock. If you had a key that opened any lock, it would be very valuable. But if you had a lock that could be opened by any key, well then it's just about useless. That doesn't mean that you should be calling her a slut out loud. This just means you make a mental note of it, and proceed as planned with your gaming.

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    Also you were lucky to be from a generation (you are 39 no?) where women still had their brains inside their heads. Although in the past I d try to change your mind or I d get into a debate, I am not getting paid to do so so I wont. If women and men seem ok to you then there is nothing else to be said. Oh and CM... Oh hai!

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