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08-04-2006, 01:43 PM
PUA:Would you rather go to a party where there is more guys and few girls or a party with more girls then guys?
HB: blah blah blah
Any changes to help make this opener better????????

NightPUA
08-04-2006, 01:54 PM
I think a background story would be good to root the opener, then again I hardly ever even get to finish my openers, I usualy cut the thread and plow on to attraction material.
Try it out and see if it works on it's own...if they are saying "why did you ask us that?" or something to that effect...then it's probably comming off incongruent, in which you would then want to root it with a background story.
*N

Vincent Chase
08-04-2006, 07:47 PM
I want you to answer a question. I'm not being sarcastic or joking about this, i'm dead serious. Tell me how you came up with this opener. Answer me that and i'll help.
Good luck. =]

show_time
08-04-2006, 10:40 PM
I want you to answer a question. I'm not being sarcastic or joking about this, i'm dead serious. Tell me how you came up with this opener. Answer me that and i'll help.
Good luck. =]
Well the reason i came up with this is for personal knowledge because whenever there is a party where its a sasuage fest and a couple of girls the girls feel uncomfortable and also when you invite a girl to a party she always asks if there is other girls there. So in conclusion girls like to go to parties where there is a good amount of other girls there as well. Where as guys like parties that are full of girls and barely any other guys. You get my point so its just nice to find out why this is from a female standpoint. I think the opener can be reworded to sound better.

Vincent Chase
08-05-2006, 12:14 AM
"I'm going to borrow you for a second. Do you prefer a party, social event, get-together, whatever, where it's predominately guys, or mainly other girls?
Well you see, actually it's a two parter. The reason I ask is because every-time I invite one of my gal pals out she always asks if there's going to be other girls there. My best friend thinks they're all hitting on me, like they want to be alone with me or something, I think chicks just don't like going to sausage fests. Do you guys think someone's trying to drop a hint or is my buddy thinking wishfully?"
Not the best opener in the world but all it has to do is get you to A2, end of story.
It's definitely workable. Just use why you came up with the opener as part of the opener.
Hope I helped.

czee
08-05-2006, 01:24 AM
why not make up a story about how you fell in love with this girl who came to one of those sausage fests unknowingly and left, while she asked you to escort her and you two ended up hanging out at this pizza joint and so on...?

Vincent Chase
08-05-2006, 01:34 AM
Because it's an opener, you're proposing is some sort of DHV stories, DHV stories are better actual events, in fact it's best if you tell anecdotes not stories but considering that A1 lasts all of a minute I think a little creative license is available, as for A2-S3 honesty is the best policy.

TrusT_nowun
11-30-2006, 12:12 PM
that sounds slick vincent, i like how you came up with it based on what he was asking, a lot of guys will just reference an opener similar to that that they've heard from somebody like style or mystery or whatever, i like the way you worked that

Vincent Chase
11-30-2006, 03:02 PM
that sounds slick vincent, i like how you came up with it based on what he was asking, a lot of guys will just reference an opener similar to that that they've heard from somebody like style or mystery or whatever, i like the way you worked that
Respect

Legion5
11-30-2006, 08:31 PM
PUA:Would you rather go to a party where there is more guys and few girls or a party with more girls then guys?
HB: blah blah blah
Any changes to help make this opener better????????
Why do you care, this is just an IOI!
Opinion openers don't work this way.
My revision would be to open with: "Hi I think you're cute".
I'm not kidding this is several times better, because being blunt is a DHV.
I want you to use this opener and change to a NON IOI topic (as in not, where did you get those shoes, where do you work, what's your name?).
This will teach you how to actualy have a conversation with ANY opener.
Do about 20 sets with a topic change like this, and no you can't neg after this it won't be congruent, but being neutral will be enough of a neg, if the target hooks and you've done maybe 2-3 topics in addition to your opener, the IOI + Neutral thing might as well be considered an opener and you can move into routines and negging.
Make your first IOI in A3 be "I was just kidding about saying you were cute but now that I get to know you, you really are fantastic... for a nerd.".
that should work.

Legion5
11-30-2006, 08:36 PM
Sigh and Vincent's magical radar for DHV managed to snoop out the coolness in an IOI and turn it into a DHV.
Holy mother of god...

Banana5161
12-01-2006, 03:50 PM
the opener I used today was, no joke:
Hey, what color is a puma?