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    Problem in High schools

    OK.
    I live in a very small town (about 7000 people) no clubs or bars for the youth are here. So the only way to meet people is school. My school is very small too (500 students).
    I have bought the MM book and DVD's a few days ago but I do not have the money for workshops. So my problem is everyone kinda knows me. Not personally but they know I exsist. The problem is I am (ok I was) very shy so I kinda have an image by these guys.

    Well my problem is these opinion openers wont work cuz i could have asked them before. So I need some openers specialized for these situation (well high school like).
    My next problem is, I'm from germany (ok thats not the problem but the following). German people are not so open minded. If a stranger starts talking to a set which doesn't know him they are very mistrusting, like "why the hell is he telling that to us?" it is not usual here.

    So I need some ideas for openers on this special situation. I have seldom time to go to the next big city to clubs to practice my skills.

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    This might not be the answer you are looking for, but here it goes.

    If a hb walked up to you and started talking would you say "why the hell is she telling that to us?" No, you would be happy that she is talking to you. That is how you have to feel about opening. They want you to talk to them. You are the prize.

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    Find some girls in your class (don't be too picky) and just talk about the lesson or the teachers. Try to be funny, confident, and alpha. Just display value and don't worry about specific openers, it'll help you get over your shyness and it'll make you some acquaintances/friends as a start. Maybe they'll introduce you to their friends and you'll have options to game.

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    OK

    @RZR
    Well thank you. this is an aspect on Openers I never considered. I hope it is gonna help.

    @Jremi

    Well this was my first idea after I read the book . I tried some routines on classmates and started takling alpha like ... I think my only biggest problem is the inner game and the approach anxiety. Yesterday I walked on the street and saw 3 8's/9's sitting on the outside of a cafe. I wanted to go inside cuz my friends where there. So first I decided to try an opener but the only one I consideres was the 3/7 routine by mystery. and a sec before i started i thought: "it would appear kinda stupid to ask this out of a sudden." and i just walked inside. well a sec later i thought to myself "you're such a fuckin coward". but i was not confident enough cuz i didn't felt like i have an opener that suited.

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    I go to a fairly small school as well (750 people) and in my experience trying to run the M3 model at school isn't the most effective idea. Instead, at school just try to be alpha/desirable. The key, however, is going to parties. It is a lot more of a social atmosphere and then doing things like opinon openers and running the M3 is MUCH more effective.

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    Yeah, parties are definitely the easiest place to start sarging. Opinion openers and stories are more welcomed there. M3 model could work at school, but you don't want to over do it at a small place where everyone talks to each other, so Bertovo has a good point. As for your cafe problem, sounds like you broke the 3 second rule. It's used because you don't have time to think. Even if you have no opener, consider it practice and just say hi. You could have asked if they'd seen your friends or something. Anything. As a beginner, you just want to practice.

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    well I broke the 3 second rule. but by accident. I saw the girls about 40 sec before I even had the chance to talk to them. But I know I need practice. But it is such a damn small town here (about 7000 habitants) so I cannot do M3 much. I try to practice it every time when I see people who do not know me already. But it is rare. And cuz I still go to school so there is not much time/money for clubbing...

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    Today, I was at work as a life guard. I am in a position where I am pressured by my bosses to focus on the people swiming, end of the day, I had a number close. How did I do this? I said hi to a two set of 16yo(im 16 no worries) girls walking by and said "Hey! Wanna keep me company." First off, its friendly and inviting. Secondly, subconciously, they are doing you a favor and yet, they get to be less bored too, anyways you are already in control. Next thing I did was asked what school they went to, what they were doing at my pool and if they were bored.

    You could easily change this to, What class were you just in? What are you doing in the _____(area you are in)? Are you bored?

    They instantly saw my friendliness and they saw someone to talk to instead of walking around like idiots. They answered their names, where they went and said hell yes were bored. I then saw my in, I had captured their attention and started to show my value. I gave them STYLE'S Best Friends test and they were best friends, (I asked them what flavor icecream they liked). They were amazed. Now, I pushed them a little away saying I had to get back to gaurding, they said nO!!! I went anyway. If your in school, say you have to go study(something that is not a neccesity like going to class). And make them beg for you back. Allow them to come study with you. I let the girls gaurd with me. We talked about schools and partying. They asked if I was a virgin and If I had a girlfriend. I said no,(im a virgin though). I said what about you? they said not at the moment. I said, YOU had a girlfriend! hot! They laughed and stated grabing at my whistle, and flirting with me. I pulled out my phone like I needed to return a text or someshit(i actually did). They started to grab at my phone that was near my crotch(that was hot, If i was doing the back stroke, I would look like a shark if you know what I mean).

    I had become entertainment to them, and you can become that to just by tweaking a little what I did. Now on with the close.

    I said I was going home in a little and that I was walking(this suggests that your house was close). They asked where my house was, they said they were going home too, I told them to walk me to their house.( you could say to a girl at school, Walk with me to lunch or some shit. If you've got their attention, they will come with you.

    All I was thinking about was getting a bj from one of these girls. I knew I had to get to their house to get one though. After I was done my shift. The plans to walk home fell apart, one of the girls houses was totally locked and the other girl said her house was too far away.( too bad my mom was at my house or we could have gone their).

    Heres where you can get an easy number close/.

    They asked me If i wanted to hang out later. I said I couldn't, they asked why. I said I wouldnt be able to reach them, they mediately gave me theirs.

    First num close since flying solo and It was during work hours.

    Take this as advice, you don't always have to approach the girl, sometimes you can wait till they pass by you and when they are 10 feet from going by, smile real big and say "Hey, Keep me company!"

    Another little tip.

    Ive been with some guys who I met from them sitting at a table and when i looked over, they waved me over. We played cards for a little and when they saw some hot girls walk by, they just waved them over too and asked them to play. A deck of cards Is always a good thing to have to provide easy entertainment without having to be worried about coming up with shit to say.

    If the girl gets board or weirded out by you, she has an easy out by letting herself lose. Remember, let the girl be comfortable.

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    Nice post luckyscs. I used to used that "Hey, wanna keep me company?" line too.. but don't try it on trains cos it doesn't work as much.

    Hayt88, if all the women you know already have a bad opinion about you (This was the case with me... not that their opinion was bad as such, just that they knew I excisted but knew I wasn't alpha etc), theres one way to change it... When the holidays come around, compltetly reinvent yourself.. Your image must be totally diffferent, and you must be alpha. They'll think you got laid by a couple of super models of the hols etc and you'll be all good. The only way to change someone's bad opinion of you it to be away from them for long enough so that when you see them again you are a different person, and the old guy is no longer in excistence. Style does this in 'the game' (sarges that chick he used to work with when he was afc), and I used it to effectivly get a one-itis that I had previously fucked up with. Like rzr said; Become the prize.

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    Like Klaas said, you must change over a break. Think about it, if they know you exist but don't know you, they won't really notice the change cause they never really thought about you and how usual you are. Mystery had a line "If I wasn't gay, you'd so be mine." It works the same way now that after you've interested and attracted her, It really dosn't matter about your past. Try to forget your past when you first start talking to and barging girls because you will find hardly any useful information from your womanless past.

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